1labfs39
The message board is for use by members to post general messages to the group, such as links to new group threads, announcements, questions, offers, invitations to local discussion...etc.
2labfs39
Because these links are such a nice resource, I'll repost them from last year:
Julie_in_the_Library posted a link that was very helpful in explaining how to achieve certain effects in your posts, like inserting images, etc.
The New How To Do Fancy Things In Your Posts thread
Which also pointed to:
The HTML help wiki
I was just browsing them and learned several neat tricks.
Julie_in_the_Library posted a link that was very helpful in explaining how to achieve certain effects in your posts, like inserting images, etc.
The New How To Do Fancy Things In Your Posts thread
Which also pointed to:
The HTML help wiki
I was just browsing them and learned several neat tricks.
3WelshBookworm
Thank you.
4labfs39
As everyone compiles their best of lists and stats for 2023, I did the same for Club Read as a group, and compared it to 2022, my first year as admin. The stats were remarkably similar.
Club Read 2023 (2022)
Members: 170 (160)
Watchers: 25 (30)
Topics: 170 (169)
Messages: 21,001 (23,121)
We had members from at least 15 countries and 20 US states (not everyone chooses to share where they are from or to officially become a member).
I like that members tend to come back year after year with some turnover for fresh blood. I also like that the group is not growing significantly, as I think the intimacy of Club Read is one of its attractions. Large enough to have diverse readers and lively exchanges, but not as overwhelming as I find 75 Books to be.
Club Read 2023 (2022)
Members: 170 (160)
Watchers: 25 (30)
Topics: 170 (169)
Messages: 21,001 (23,121)
We had members from at least 15 countries and 20 US states (not everyone chooses to share where they are from or to officially become a member).
I like that members tend to come back year after year with some turnover for fresh blood. I also like that the group is not growing significantly, as I think the intimacy of Club Read is one of its attractions. Large enough to have diverse readers and lively exchanges, but not as overwhelming as I find 75 Books to be.
5dchaikin
>4 labfs39: that’s pretty amazing, actually, how similar those two years were.
6lisapeet
>5 dchaikin: We are nothing if not consistent.
7rachbxl
Does anyone know how to un-hide a thread? I've hidden What are you reading now? by accident and would like to have it back!
8AnnieMod
While you are in the thread: there is a button that says "Unignore this topic" (top right on desktop, bottom of the page on mobile).
If you do not have the link, go to your ignored Topics: (Talk -> More -> Ignored Topics - direct link: https://www.librarything.com/talk?mode=more_ignoredtopics ) and click on the plus sign in the last column OR open the thread and follow the first process.
If you do not have the link, go to your ignored Topics: (Talk -> More -> Ignored Topics - direct link: https://www.librarything.com/talk?mode=more_ignoredtopics ) and click on the plus sign in the last column OR open the thread and follow the first process.
9rachbxl
>8 AnnieMod: it’s back! Thanks, Annie. I used the link (and found a whole list of ignored topics, who knew?) as I didn’t have (or couldn’t find) the “Unignore this topic” option.
10SassyLassy
Looking for inspiration for you 2024 reading? Here is this year's Hope to Read Soon: A Tribute to rebeccanyc: https://www.librarything.com/topic/356951
11Julie_in_the_Library
I've had one person inquire, so just to let people know: I got a really bad cold midway through last week that, due to complications from my chronic illnessess, involves fluid in my lungs and other misery, so I haven't been doing anything but sitting on my sofa watching TV for four or five days, other than a trip to urgent care.
I'm feeling a lot better now, though not totally out of the woods, and I definitely plan to continue posting and be back in everyone's threads soon.
I'm feeling a lot better now, though not totally out of the woods, and I definitely plan to continue posting and be back in everyone's threads soon.
12cindydavid4
Oh Im sorry youve been ill! hope your are better soon, come back when you are ready.
13labfs39
>11 Julie_in_the_Library: Yikes, take care, Julie. Feel better soon
14RidgewayGirl
>11 Julie_in_the_Library: Take care of yourself and rest as much as you can -- I'm sure you are already doing all the right things.
15LolaWalser
I hope you get better soon, Julie, so sorry you're going through all that.
16rv1988
>11 Julie_in_the_Library: Oh no, I hope you feel better soon!
17FlorenceArt
Not sure where to post this, but I think it could be interesting to some here. The University of Chicago Press free ebook for this month is The Tiger in the Attic. Here is the book's description from the e-mail I got:
In 1939, on the eve of Hitler’s invasion of Poland, seven-year-old Edith Milton (then Edith Cohn) and her sister Ruth left Germany by way of the Kindertransport, the program which gave some 10,000 Jewish children refuge in England. The two were given shelter by a jovial, upper-class British foster family with whom they lived for the next seven years. Edith chronicles these transformative experiences of exile and good fortune in The Tiger in the Attic, a touching memoir of growing up as an outsider in a strange land.
In this illuminating chronicle, Edith describes how she struggled to fit in and to conquer self-doubts about her German identity. Her realistic portrayal of the seemingly mundane yet historically momentous details of daily life during World War II slowly reveals istelf as a hopeful story about the kindness and generosity of strangers. She paints an account rich with colorful characters and intense relationships, uncanny close calls and unnerving bouts of luck that led to survival. Edith’s journey between cultures continues with her final passage to America—yet another chapter in her life that required adjustment to a new world—allowing her, as she narrates it here, to visit her past as an exile all over again.
The Tiger in the Attic is a literary gem from a skilled fiction writer, the story of a thoughtful and observant child growing up against the backdrop of the most dangerous and decisive moment in modern European history. Offering a unique perspective on Holocaust studies, this book is both an exceptional and universal story of a young German-Jewish girl caught between worlds.
In 1939, on the eve of Hitler’s invasion of Poland, seven-year-old Edith Milton (then Edith Cohn) and her sister Ruth left Germany by way of the Kindertransport, the program which gave some 10,000 Jewish children refuge in England. The two were given shelter by a jovial, upper-class British foster family with whom they lived for the next seven years. Edith chronicles these transformative experiences of exile and good fortune in The Tiger in the Attic, a touching memoir of growing up as an outsider in a strange land.
In this illuminating chronicle, Edith describes how she struggled to fit in and to conquer self-doubts about her German identity. Her realistic portrayal of the seemingly mundane yet historically momentous details of daily life during World War II slowly reveals istelf as a hopeful story about the kindness and generosity of strangers. She paints an account rich with colorful characters and intense relationships, uncanny close calls and unnerving bouts of luck that led to survival. Edith’s journey between cultures continues with her final passage to America—yet another chapter in her life that required adjustment to a new world—allowing her, as she narrates it here, to visit her past as an exile all over again.
The Tiger in the Attic is a literary gem from a skilled fiction writer, the story of a thoughtful and observant child growing up against the backdrop of the most dangerous and decisive moment in modern European history. Offering a unique perspective on Holocaust studies, this book is both an exceptional and universal story of a young German-Jewish girl caught between worlds.
18dianeham
>17 FlorenceArt: cool! I got the book - easy peasy. Are you reading it?
19RidgewayGirl
>17 FlorenceArt: Thanks!
20FlorenceArt
>18 dianeham: Probably not, memoirs are not really my thing. I should probably get it though, just in case. I have a collection of those free ebooks, some of which I read and enjoyed, but many are forgotten on my hard drive. This one really sounds like it could interest several CR members. I hope you enjoy it!
21labfs39
>17 FlorenceArt: Thanks so much for this. Would you mind if I reposted this in the Holocaust Literature group?
22FlorenceArt
>21 labfs39: Of course not!
23labfs39
>22 FlorenceArt: Thanks! I downloaded a copy too.
24lisapeet
>11 Julie_in_the_Library: Late to the well wishes, but I hope you're feeling at least a bit better by now, Julie.
25chlorine
I hope this is within the scope of this thread: this is a query for a book including a specific scene.
My mum is setting up a small show about women's lives and remembers a story she read about a pregnant woman working in the fields, giving birth, wrapping the child and tying it in her back, and resuming work. She would like to find a book with a similar scene. She thinks the one she read happened in Africa but she's not looking especially for a book set in Africa.
The book would have to be written in French or translated to French as she doesn't read English.
If anybody has any suggestions it would be great! I'll crosspost this to the Global Challenge group.
My mum is setting up a small show about women's lives and remembers a story she read about a pregnant woman working in the fields, giving birth, wrapping the child and tying it in her back, and resuming work. She would like to find a book with a similar scene. She thinks the one she read happened in Africa but she's not looking especially for a book set in Africa.
The book would have to be written in French or translated to French as she doesn't read English.
If anybody has any suggestions it would be great! I'll crosspost this to the Global Challenge group.
26AnnieMod
>25 chlorine: You may also want to post in https://www.librarything.com/ngroups/724/Name-that-Book for identifying the book itself - there are some people who help there that can find a book seemingly from a clue like "it had a flower on the cover" and your description is a lot more than that.
And then you may want to post request for recommendations here: https://www.librarything.com/ngroups/23175/Book-Recommendations-Requests
And then you may want to post request for recommendations here: https://www.librarything.com/ngroups/23175/Book-Recommendations-Requests
27cindydavid4
>25 chlorine: well it sound a lot like the good earth im sure that scene is in there. I suspect it would be translated in French
28chlorine
>27 cindydavid4: That very well might be it, this is very probably a book my mom has read!
>26 AnnieMod: Thanks for the pointers! I'll check with her if this is the book pointed out by >27 cindydavid4: and if not I'll post where you suggest!
>26 AnnieMod: Thanks for the pointers! I'll check with her if this is the book pointed out by >27 cindydavid4: and if not I'll post where you suggest!
29janoorani24
>25 chlorine: I agree with cindydavid4, I'm almost certain the scene is from The Good Earth.
30chlorine
>27 cindydavid4: >29 janoorani24: My mother confirms that it is indeed The good earth, thank you very much!
31cindydavid4
>30 chlorine: and what do we win, Johnny? (From old tv show the price is right) happened to see an updated version and wow the cosstumes look straight out of Hunger Games),
ps. glad I could help :)
ps. glad I could help :)
32chlorine
>31 cindydavid4: The price is right brings me way back! We had a French version that we watched back in the time.
33labfs39
Emile Zola Group Read of Les Rougon-Macquart
Tess/Tess_W is leading this new group read that may be of interest to some of you, and she asked me to cross-post about it. She writes:
I’m so excited to be reading Zola’s “masterpiece” with friends. Sometimes it is difficult to interpret Zola, and other readers’ insights really add understanding. I will pattern this group read after a couple of others in which I have participated.
Here is the time schedule (Zola’s reading suggestion):
September 2024 The Fortune of the Rougons
November 2024 His Excellency Eugene Rougon
January 2025 The Kill
March 2025 Money
May 2025 The Dream
July 2025 The Conquest of Plassans
September 2025 The Ladies' Paradise / The Ladies Delight
November 2025 Pot Luck
More to follow as we progress!
There are some joining who are ahead of this schedule. I encourage you to join in the conversation when you can!
Tess/Tess_W is leading this new group read that may be of interest to some of you, and she asked me to cross-post about it. She writes:
I’m so excited to be reading Zola’s “masterpiece” with friends. Sometimes it is difficult to interpret Zola, and other readers’ insights really add understanding. I will pattern this group read after a couple of others in which I have participated.
Here is the time schedule (Zola’s reading suggestion):
September 2024 The Fortune of the Rougons
November 2024 His Excellency Eugene Rougon
January 2025 The Kill
March 2025 Money
May 2025 The Dream
July 2025 The Conquest of Plassans
September 2025 The Ladies' Paradise / The Ladies Delight
November 2025 Pot Luck
More to follow as we progress!
There are some joining who are ahead of this schedule. I encourage you to join in the conversation when you can!
34rv1988
Some off-topic nonsense. Every year, the Bulwer-Lytton Prize is awarded to novels with the worst opening lines (it's meant to be a bit tongue in cheek, not nasty). You may find the name familiar: Bulwer-Lytton wrote a novel that began "It was a dark and stormy night....".
Here's 2024's winning entry list. https://www.bulwer-lytton.com/2024
I think this one, from the romance category, is my favourite:
Edit: Just to clarify, these aren't actual lines from novels. "Founded in 1982 at San Jose State University in California, the Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest challenges entrants to compose opening sentences to the worst of all possible novels."
Here's 2024's winning entry list. https://www.bulwer-lytton.com/2024
I think this one, from the romance category, is my favourite:
If broken hearts were made of simple syrup, and shattered dreams were made from white rum, and agony and despair came from ¾ ounce of lime juice, freshly squeezed, and three mint leaves respectively, then Mary Lou just served up a mojito cocktail straight from the ninth circle of hell when she told Ricky the baby wasn’t his.
Edit: Just to clarify, these aren't actual lines from novels. "Founded in 1982 at San Jose State University in California, the Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest challenges entrants to compose opening sentences to the worst of all possible novels."
35Dilara86
>34 rv1988: I love it! And am also relieved to know that this is not a real, published opening line...
36kidzdoc
>34 rv1988: Hilarious!
37SassyLassy
>34 rv1988: Always such a fun contest. Thanks for posting that great sentence - I may never look at those ingredients in the same way again!
38labfs39
>34 rv1988: Just what I needed this morning. I particularly liked the science fiction ones. :-)
39rv1988
>38 labfs39: "The representatives of the Galactic Explorer Chronozinium committed quite the faux pas among the ghosts when they landed their zincodozerite powered inter-dimensional cruiser in the pages of the haunted house novel after mistranslating the term séance fiction." That's too good for this prize, I would unironically read that book.
40kjuliff
There used to be a prize in Australia given out by the Melbourne Age newspaper. The goal was to write a short story in the style of any well-know author. I remember my mum entering the competition with a Patrick White parody. She didn’t win but it was a fun competition.
41thorold
>40 kjuliff: …which of course reminds us of the famous (but apparently true) anecdote about Graham Greene winning second prize in a New Statesman competition to write a Graham Greene parody, in 1949: https://www.futilitycloset.com/2009/12/11/not-myself/
42FlorenceArt
The Free e-book from Chicago University Press for September is From Eve to Evolution: Darwin, Science, and Women's Rights in Gilded Age America by Kimberly A. Hamlin
Download link here.
From Eve to Evolution provides the first full-length study of American women’s responses to evolutionary theory and illuminates the role science played in the nineteenth-century women’s rights movement. Kimberly A. Hamlin reveals how a number of nineteenth-century women, raised on the idea that Eve’s sin forever fixed women’s subordinate status, embraced Darwinian evolution—especially sexual selection theory as explained in The Descent of Man—as an alternative to the creation story in Genesis.
Download link here.
From Eve to Evolution provides the first full-length study of American women’s responses to evolutionary theory and illuminates the role science played in the nineteenth-century women’s rights movement. Kimberly A. Hamlin reveals how a number of nineteenth-century women, raised on the idea that Eve’s sin forever fixed women’s subordinate status, embraced Darwinian evolution—especially sexual selection theory as explained in The Descent of Man—as an alternative to the creation story in Genesis.
44WelshBookworm
A book that I just read and listed on my thread The Heart of Summer (Finfarran Peninsula #6) by Felicity Hayes-McCoy seems to have been conflated with book 7 The Year of Lost and Found. There is only the one touchstone for both books. Is there someone to notify to correct this? I'm not comfortable messing with the cataloging here.....
45AnnieMod
>44 WelshBookworm: Fixed. And I added both to the series while I was at that.
We have a Combiners group to post into when something like that happens (although everyone is welcome to fix on their own as well). But if you are more comfortable posting here or pinging me directly, that also works.
We have a Combiners group to post into when something like that happens (although everyone is welcome to fix on their own as well). But if you are more comfortable posting here or pinging me directly, that also works.
46WelshBookworm
>45 AnnieMod: Thank you. But the record for The Year of Lost and Found still shows the book cover for The Heart of Summer. Book #8 The Bookseller's Gift is being released on Oct. 17...
47AnnieMod
>46 WelshBookworm: Covers can take a few days to sort themselves out and if someone added a book with the isbn of the other, they may still stay forever. The books are separated - now it is up to the site to sort out its caches.
48AnnieMod
>46 WelshBookworm: PS: Also - make sure you are not clicking on an old link - these will always show parts of both books because of how URLs work around here. I just gave the covers another nudge and they seem pretty clean to me but if you still see them mixed, give it sometime or post the link here to see what exactly you are looking at (see the note about old links - workID/bookID mismatch essentially.
Looking at the covers - the wrong one comes from Amazon - most likely people having added the wrong book and edited the title but not the isbn. Which will sort itself out when more copies with the correct cover are added. Meanwhile I flagged the cover - which is all we can do.
Looking at the covers - the wrong one comes from Amazon - most likely people having added the wrong book and edited the title but not the isbn. Which will sort itself out when more copies with the correct cover are added. Meanwhile I flagged the cover - which is all we can do.
49WelshBookworm
>48 AnnieMod: Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it!
50labfs39
Hello Club Readers,
In this season of reflection, I wanted to take a moment to thank the members of Club Read for creating a warm and inclusive environment that treats all members with respect. Some members have come to me with reports of aggressive speech in other places on LibraryThing. Some are even feeling like LT is no longer a safe place for them. One of the things that makes Club Read special to me is that it is a safe place for people to share and that members become friends, not just random creators of snarky soundbites. I am thankful to the members of Club Read for fostering an environment of respect and tolerance. Like a family, we may not always agree or get along, but for the most part we do so amiably.
I also appreciate that in Club Read, members' threads are like reading journals and posts are like group emails, not Twitter soundbites. I think this is another thing that sets CR apart and makes it work for me. I love the deliberate, thoughtful pace of Club Read in a world that is increasingly fast-paced and impersonal.
So, thanks, and happy reading,
Lisa
In this season of reflection, I wanted to take a moment to thank the members of Club Read for creating a warm and inclusive environment that treats all members with respect. Some members have come to me with reports of aggressive speech in other places on LibraryThing. Some are even feeling like LT is no longer a safe place for them. One of the things that makes Club Read special to me is that it is a safe place for people to share and that members become friends, not just random creators of snarky soundbites. I am thankful to the members of Club Read for fostering an environment of respect and tolerance. Like a family, we may not always agree or get along, but for the most part we do so amiably.
I also appreciate that in Club Read, members' threads are like reading journals and posts are like group emails, not Twitter soundbites. I think this is another thing that sets CR apart and makes it work for me. I love the deliberate, thoughtful pace of Club Read in a world that is increasingly fast-paced and impersonal.
So, thanks, and happy reading,
Lisa
51japaul22
Agreed, Lisa! I find myself visiting other LT groups less and less, so I am sad to hear that there are groups that are less welcoming.
I think we hit a great balance in Club Read of sharing some of info about our personal lives, but keeping most of our talk book focused.
Thanks for keeping this group going, Lisa!
I think we hit a great balance in Club Read of sharing some of info about our personal lives, but keeping most of our talk book focused.
Thanks for keeping this group going, Lisa!
52cindydavid4
thank you lisa for all you do. I discovered a corner of the LT universe that I wasnt expecting It was not pleasant. this place here is just perfect for book lovers where conversations are civil and never dull Its people like you who make it so
53kjuliff
I mostly visit CR on LT and I really enjoy being a member. We all get among, while our tastes in books vary.
I think it’s important that we are able to discuss more than books, and because of this we get to know each other. I’ve even had one member give me their cell number in case I need help at night due to health concerns - a this isn’t even a member who reads the same books as I do, though our tastes cross on one particular region.
Much of this must be our administrator’s doing. Yes Lisa! I know what’s involved in managing a large online group. In the early days of the internet I used to run an interactive website for expat Aussies. Once FB came along interest gradually declined, but in its heyday we were a close group and to this day old members remain friends, some visiting each other still though they live thousands of miles apart.
I’d like to thank all the CR members who have supported me in rough times. It has meant a lot, more than those members possibly realize.
Another important aspect of CR is the freedom of expresión. Posts are read seriously and this avoids misunderstanding and unnecessary conflict. And even if it there is the possibility of conflict CR members usually resolve it. Or ignore it. It never has members jumping on the bandwagon.
One final thought. I used to wonder why people got upset when attacked personally (on other sites/groups) by more than one person. I used to think, what’s the big deal. I didn’t really understand how vulnerable you can feel when complete strangers attack you personally and publicly. I think as one gets older one gets more sensitive about their public perception.
Thank you CR for being a warm and safe place in these troubled times.
I think it’s important that we are able to discuss more than books, and because of this we get to know each other. I’ve even had one member give me their cell number in case I need help at night due to health concerns - a this isn’t even a member who reads the same books as I do, though our tastes cross on one particular region.
Much of this must be our administrator’s doing. Yes Lisa! I know what’s involved in managing a large online group. In the early days of the internet I used to run an interactive website for expat Aussies. Once FB came along interest gradually declined, but in its heyday we were a close group and to this day old members remain friends, some visiting each other still though they live thousands of miles apart.
I’d like to thank all the CR members who have supported me in rough times. It has meant a lot, more than those members possibly realize.
Another important aspect of CR is the freedom of expresión. Posts are read seriously and this avoids misunderstanding and unnecessary conflict. And even if it there is the possibility of conflict CR members usually resolve it. Or ignore it. It never has members jumping on the bandwagon.
One final thought. I used to wonder why people got upset when attacked personally (on other sites/groups) by more than one person. I used to think, what’s the big deal. I didn’t really understand how vulnerable you can feel when complete strangers attack you personally and publicly. I think as one gets older one gets more sensitive about their public perception.
Thank you CR for being a warm and safe place in these troubled times.
54rv1988
Han Kang wins the Nobel prize for literature.
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/literature/2024/press-release/
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/literature/2024/press-release/
55kidzdoc
>54 rv1988: Yay!! I've read three of her books that have been translated into English, The Vegetarian, Human Acts, and The White Book, and I enjoyed each of them. The US Kindle edition of her most recent novel to be translated into English, Greek Lessons, is currently on sale for $4.99, so I snapped it right away.
56AnnieMod
>55 kidzdoc: I read that one last year (the only one of hers I read) - it was a nice love story (of a type) with somewhat of a light deep story of belonging, immigration and languages and finding one's voice.
57cindydavid4
>54 rv1988: Ive not heard about her before; guess I need to get reading
59Dilara86
Good to know CR members enjoy her work. I haven't read any of her books yet, but that's going to change: I requested Impossibles adieux (We Do Not Part) from the library earlier today.
60japaul22
I've also read and loved Human Acts, though it is a very difficult subject.
61labfs39
I have very much enjoyed being the Club Read admin and consider it an honor to do so. Thank you, Lois/avaland, for thinking I would be up to the challenge! After three years, I think it's time to enliven things with a fresh perspective, and I am ready to take a break. Dan/dchaikin has graciously agreed to take over as Club Read admin starting January 1. Dan is one of the longest running members in CR, and his threads are always a source of friendly intellectual discussion and book talk. I know he'll bring some new ideas and energy to our group. Thanks, Dan!
Those of you who curate threads for Club Read will be hearing from Dan about 2025. Also if you have an idea for a group thread in 2025 (pets, travel literature, etc.), please ping Dan with your ideas.
Thanks again for helping to make Club Read a success. I look forward to seeing where our book journeys take us in 2025. Until then, happy holidays and happy reading!
Lisa
Those of you who curate threads for Club Read will be hearing from Dan about 2025. Also if you have an idea for a group thread in 2025 (pets, travel literature, etc.), please ping Dan with your ideas.
Thanks again for helping to make Club Read a success. I look forward to seeing where our book journeys take us in 2025. Until then, happy holidays and happy reading!
Lisa
62cindydavid4
well im sad about you going but thrilled Dan is coming in your place. gotta say tho, you have done such an amazing job keeping up with CR and still be able to post and review and join in the fun. I hope what ever you decide to do will bring you much joy and hope and hope you will still be walking the halls hereabouts still
63dchaikin
>61 labfs39: i have been pondering how to make my announcement. :)
We have been very lucky here, with Lois, rebeccanyc, pmonk and now three steady committed years from Lisa. Lisa has given heart here. She's dedicated, organized, kept us in great hands. And she has a long history of terrific conversation-sparking posts on her threads and others (which I hope continues). I'm truly grateful for all Lisa has done, and all our group has done. As for taking over, my heart is here, my organization is of the spasmatic sort. Hopefully the former will compensate for the latter. I love our group and community. I love reading, and this group has become an essential part of my own literary experience, growth, and enjoyment.
And, yes, I will be contacting you thread organizers about next year. My main idea next year is to think about our longer threads and if they need a different approach, or not. I'm thinking of encouraging many shorter threads over fewer longer ones. Maybe, for example, one thread for question. Anyway, just one idea, marbles rolling around. Maybe I should put out a thread for 2025 ideas. ??
We have been very lucky here, with Lois, rebeccanyc, pmonk and now three steady committed years from Lisa. Lisa has given heart here. She's dedicated, organized, kept us in great hands. And she has a long history of terrific conversation-sparking posts on her threads and others (which I hope continues). I'm truly grateful for all Lisa has done, and all our group has done. As for taking over, my heart is here, my organization is of the spasmatic sort. Hopefully the former will compensate for the latter. I love our group and community. I love reading, and this group has become an essential part of my own literary experience, growth, and enjoyment.
And, yes, I will be contacting you thread organizers about next year. My main idea next year is to think about our longer threads and if they need a different approach, or not. I'm thinking of encouraging many shorter threads over fewer longer ones. Maybe, for example, one thread for question. Anyway, just one idea, marbles rolling around. Maybe I should put out a thread for 2025 ideas. ??
64KeithChaffee
>63 dchaikin: I'm thinking of encouraging many shorter threads over fewer longer ones.
I'd like this idea more if LT made it easier to move from one thread to another. In order to catch up with what's new each day, I have to click on a thread, click back to the main Talk page, click on the next thread, back to main, next thread... If there were a mechanism that let you just jump to the next thread with new posts -- some sort of "see all new" button -- lots of short threads would be fine; with the current mechanism, the fewer/longer threads, the better.
I'd like this idea more if LT made it easier to move from one thread to another. In order to catch up with what's new each day, I have to click on a thread, click back to the main Talk page, click on the next thread, back to main, next thread... If there were a mechanism that let you just jump to the next thread with new posts -- some sort of "see all new" button -- lots of short threads would be fine; with the current mechanism, the fewer/longer threads, the better.
65japaul22
Thanks to Lisa for being admin all these years - you've done a great job! And I'm excited that Dan is willing to take on being the new group admin!
67kjuliff
>64 KeithChaffee: I think that’s more for the suggested features group as the admin has no control over navigation issues. But I agree with you.
68KeithChaffee
No, I understand that it's not something the admin can do anything about; just pointing out that this one particular bit of mildly cumbersome functionality would argue (at least, for me) against more/shorter threads.
69kjuliff
>63 dchaikin: Welcome Dan. I’m going to miss Lisa but I think she deserves a rest. Personally I don’t want to se any major changes and I like the mix of thread lengths.
Re All Things Audio, I can’t see any point in it continuing. Members are posting audio related issues in other posts, as they are generally book-specific anyway. Plus there’s a group devoted to audio books.
I’m sure we’ll al have fun with you as an admin. I certainly intend to ;-)
Re All Things Audio, I can’t see any point in it continuing. Members are posting audio related issues in other posts, as they are generally book-specific anyway. Plus there’s a group devoted to audio books.
I’m sure we’ll al have fun with you as an admin. I certainly intend to ;-)
70kjuliff
>68 KeithChaffee: I’m with you about the shorter threads and don’t se how longer ones could be “discouraged” anyway. I like the user having the choice.
71KeithChaffee
And oh! I certainly should have said -- probably before I began grumbling -- welcome, Dan! I know you'll do a fine job.
72dchaikin
>69 kjuliff: I'm going to miss Lisa doing the group stuff too. :) Before killing ALL THINGS AUDIO, let's think about it a bit. Audio is interesting and has specific aspects that when we listen we want to share - mainly the impact of the reader. Other things too. I'm open to killing a dead idea, but I'm not sure that is dead, although it might be something that only generates traffic sporadically, and mostly in January. I'll message you.
>72 dchaikin: Thanks!
>72 dchaikin: Thanks!
73cindydavid4
when you are talking about discussing long threads are you referring to individual ones, or along the RTT RRG etc threads? I am very in favor of having an easier way to navigate threads, and somehow keeping posts from disappearing..thanks
74dchaikin
>73 cindydavid4: I'm thinking all threads, but in the sense of encouraging only. Encouraging more shorter threads. My logic is that many shorter threads are more forgiving when we fall behind. But, this is just thinking out loud. And I don't imagine any rules evolving. Still your thread is yours to do as suits you.
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76FlorenceArt
Thank you Lisa for your great admin work, and welcome to Dan! I haven’t been very active but I still love following all the threads here.
77labfs39
Thanks, everyone, for your positive comments. Although I won't be admin next year, I will still be haunting the threads and hopefully reading more.
78raton-liseur
We've had a great admin for three years (I can't belive it's been three years, it went so fast!), so thanks a lot Lisa for everything you've done to keep this group as welcoming and cosy as it is!
It's sad to see you stepping down, but at the same time, I feel we are very lucky to have Dan stepping in, and I am sure we will have another great years in front of us with such a great admin-to be!
So thanks to both of you!
It's sad to see you stepping down, but at the same time, I feel we are very lucky to have Dan stepping in, and I am sure we will have another great years in front of us with such a great admin-to be!
So thanks to both of you!
79karindnyc
Help! Years ago I read a regency romance about a widow who had followed her husband during the Napoleonic wars. Afterwards she had a terrible fear of thunder and lightning because such a storm had killed a number of ppl in the tent next to hers while in Spain. Does anyone know what I am talking about? I’d like to reread it but can’t recall the author or the title. Tyvm!
80labfs39
>79 karindnyc: You might try the LT group, Name That Book.
82labfs39
>81 RidgewayGirl: Lol, jinx!
83RidgewayGirl
>82 labfs39: Great minds, etc...
86rv1988
>61 labfs39: Thanks so much for all your wonderful work here at CR - and looking forward to having dchaikin take over, too. I think we should acknowledge more, and more often the work you do in building such a welcoming, thoughtful community here.
87cindydavid4
Id love a way of easily searching for a thread. 75 Challenge has a great index. could that happen here?
88labfs39
>87 cindydavid4: Too be honest, I'm not sure creating an index would be worth the effort. The 75 Challenge group has 687 threads currently, whereas Club Read has 164. Of those, only 65 have had action since October 1. Finally, from the Club Read homepage, there is a "search topics" box. If I put "labfs39" in the box, it brings up a list, with the threads I created at the top, then the messages I wrote. You can arrange the messages in a number of ways: relevance, alphabetical, started date, last message, even across all groups (not just Club Read). So it's actually quite easy to find a member's threads, IMO. Furthermore, if you type a book/author/topic such as "Monte Cristo" in the search box, you can find all the messages that contain that word/s.
That said, however, I would not be opposed to someone creating a Club Read wiki, and I would post a link to it on the group homepage like the 75ers do. Go for it!
That said, however, I would not be opposed to someone creating a Club Read wiki, and I would post a link to it on the group homepage like the 75ers do. Go for it!
89cindydavid4
duh - Ive been using the search bar to look for titles and authors, didnt think to use it for individual members! and didnt know I could find messages! ok, problem solved move along nothing to see here:)
90FlorenceArt
>88 labfs39: Wow, I didn't know about that! I never visit the group home page so that's probably why. Will try to keep it in mind as it could be useful some day.
91AlisonY
Thank you Lisa for all your hard work on administering CR these past 3 years. You've notably made an effort to call in on everyone's threads which is a big undertaking but made everyone feel very welcome (especially those new to the group).
Dan - a super safe pair of hands for Lisa to hand over the baton too. Thanks for volunteering.
Funny your comments on long threads, as this is the first year I've not bothered to divide me thread up as much (maybe even at all - must check). The reason was I second guessed what the point was - I hadn't thought about people feeling more overwhelmed when they get behind. I guess the converse to that is that it can be overwhelming when you're behind to have an ever growing list of threads you feel you should be getting around.
No doubt there's no right answer as LT is currently set up. Happy to go with whatever route you choose.
Dan - a super safe pair of hands for Lisa to hand over the baton too. Thanks for volunteering.
Funny your comments on long threads, as this is the first year I've not bothered to divide me thread up as much (maybe even at all - must check). The reason was I second guessed what the point was - I hadn't thought about people feeling more overwhelmed when they get behind. I guess the converse to that is that it can be overwhelming when you're behind to have an ever growing list of threads you feel you should be getting around.
No doubt there's no right answer as LT is currently set up. Happy to go with whatever route you choose.
92Dilara86
Those are big shoes to fill - Lisa is a fantastic admin - but I'm sure Dan will be successful :-)
93dchaikin
>91 AlisonY: that’s exactly the stuff I’ve been thinking about.
>92 Dilara86: I agree about the big shoes to fill. We’ve been spoiled. 🙂
>92 Dilara86: I agree about the big shoes to fill. We’ve been spoiled. 🙂
94lisapeet
Thanks for all the good (and likely sometimes hard) work, Lisa. You've helped make/keep this place really valuable.
And welcome, Dan! I know you'll bring your own flair to this role.
And: Hi, everyone. I've been AWOL for a bit, just life keeping me busy and the dog keeping me outside, but on this day (and all the time, really) I'm glad for the companionship I have in all sorts of forms.
And welcome, Dan! I know you'll bring your own flair to this role.
And: Hi, everyone. I've been AWOL for a bit, just life keeping me busy and the dog keeping me outside, but on this day (and all the time, really) I'm glad for the companionship I have in all sorts of forms.
95dchaikin
Thinking about 2025. We have a several terrific threads that kick off in January. Some blast through the year. Some go quiet and re-emerge.
I’m looking for volunteers to run them, as in the past. All threads are open. We’re always open to new ideas too. So please, if you’re interested in maintaining your current topic threads. or taking over a topic thread, PM me.
Please only reply by PM. Don’t respond here.
Here’s the 2024 list -
these need constant attention
• Questions for the Avid Reader
• What Are You Reading?
these need set up and occasional attention
• Quarterly and Year-End Favorites
• Interesting Articles
• Poetry
• Just Lists
• Short Fiction
• La Cucina
• The Greenhouse
• What Nonfiction Are You Reading Now?
these have been very quiet
• Has Anyone Read?
• All Things Audio
I’m looking for volunteers to run them, as in the past. All threads are open. We’re always open to new ideas too. So please, if you’re interested in maintaining your current topic threads. or taking over a topic thread, PM me.
Please only reply by PM. Don’t respond here.
Here’s the 2024 list -
these need constant attention
• Questions for the Avid Reader
• What Are You Reading?
these need set up and occasional attention
• Quarterly and Year-End Favorites
• Interesting Articles
• Poetry
• Just Lists
• Short Fiction
• La Cucina
• The Greenhouse
• What Nonfiction Are You Reading Now?
these have been very quiet
• Has Anyone Read?
• All Things Audio
96dchaikin
Most threads now have monitors. The biggest remaining opening is the poetry thread. It needs a little TLC. Please message me if you’re interested in running it.
The Greenhouse, the nonfiction-focused thread, the “Has Anyone Read” and “All Things Audio” are also open. If you want it, it’s almost certainly yours. Message me if you’re interested.
The Greenhouse, the nonfiction-focused thread, the “Has Anyone Read” and “All Things Audio” are also open. If you want it, it’s almost certainly yours. Message me if you’re interested.
97kjuliff
As Dan knows I’m no longer up to monitoring “All things Audio” because (ironically) of my vision loss. I tried early on but there was little ongoing interest, though there was an initial burst of enthusiasm at its inception. Further there is already a group called Audiobooks.
If this audio thread to be a goer it maybe could succeed with a change of name such as “For the Visually Challenged. “Forms of macular degeneration are a leading cause of vision loss in adults aged 60 and over. It’s more common than one might think. To date I have not found anywhere devoted to book lovers with vision problems.
Even LT which I had regarded as enlightened had no interest when I suggested a technical change to help people with vision loss to post more easily. It was not even acknowledged as a problem. Vision loss does not mean loss of wanting to read and discuss good books.
If this audio thread to be a goer it maybe could succeed with a change of name such as “For the Visually Challenged. “Forms of macular degeneration are a leading cause of vision loss in adults aged 60 and over. It’s more common than one might think. To date I have not found anywhere devoted to book lovers with vision problems.
Even LT which I had regarded as enlightened had no interest when I suggested a technical change to help people with vision loss to post more easily. It was not even acknowledged as a problem. Vision loss does not mean loss of wanting to read and discuss good books.
98dchaikin
Hi all - A 2025 update.
For anyone reading this who is new, we will start a new group for 2025. This group won't be shut down, but it will become very quiet. We this every year as a kind of refresh. I'll open the 2025 group up closer the end of December, although I haven't set a date yet.
Almost every thread is now filled. However, some threads need a committed monitor - The Greenhouse, the nonfiction-focused thread, the “Has Anyone Read” and “All Things Audio” are also open. Message me if you’re interested.
For anyone reading this who is new, we will start a new group for 2025. This group won't be shut down, but it will become very quiet. We this every year as a kind of refresh. I'll open the 2025 group up closer the end of December, although I haven't set a date yet.
Almost every thread is now filled. However, some threads need a committed monitor - The Greenhouse, the nonfiction-focused thread, the “Has Anyone Read” and “All Things Audio” are also open. Message me if you’re interested.
99dchaikin
Also.... we need an image for the 2025 group. If you have suggestions, please share - here or in a private message. The best I've so far is Keats drawing of a Grecian urn - but I don't think a classical image is the right fit for the variety of readers that is us.
100mnleona
>99 dchaikin: My first thought was ConceptDawg who does the drawings for the Hunts. They are always great for the theme of the Hunt. Just an idea.
101dchaikin
>100 mnleona: he hasn’t been involved in the group. I think he works for LT right?
102jjmcgaffey
Yes, he's LT staff - possibly the longest-running employee (aside from Tim - does Tim count as employee, though he's employer as well?).
103RidgewayGirl
>99 dchaikin: I'll look for possible images when I have time. I think that given how many in this group try to read globally and across cultural and historical experiences, that should be emphasized but how to do that, I have no idea.
104mnleona
>101 dchaikin: Yes.I look forward to his drawings as well as the Hunts. For those who do not know what the Hunts are, LT has challenges they call Hunts. Different themes throughout the year and there are clues to search for books and authors. Watch for the notices. I always find new books and authors to read.
105dchaikin
Hi - reminder, the 2025 group can use more monitors. Two threads are still available - the nonfiction-focused thread, and the “Has Anyone Read”. Message me if you’re interested. And, note, you get a bonus if you volunteer. I've opened access to anyone with a communal thread to monitor, so we can set up early. 🙂
I'll open the group up to everyone soon! (Yay!)
I'll open the group up to everyone soon! (Yay!)
107kidzdoc
>106 dchaikin: Nice!
110dianeham
>108 kidzdoc: someone we know?
111kidzdoc
>110 dianeham: Possibly!
112rv1988
>106 dchaikin: Love it!
116cindydavid4
>113 dianeham: sweet!
117cindydavid4
>115 kjuliff: K is that you? thinking about it i dont think Id find a pic of me reading a book. I was the youngest and not a lot of pics of me in general. but i do remember doing so when I was young
118kjuliff
>117 cindydavid4: No Cindy. And I still haven’t read Nietche’s Beyond Good and Evil . The child is my grandson Seth, and the photo was taken by my daughter who was being pretentious.
119FlorenceArt

I’m the one on the left 😉
123WelshBookworm
>121 dchaikin: I have half of my lists done.... Yes, I'm excited!
124FlorenceArt
I’m excited too! Writing my opening post in my head 😉
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128dchaikin
>122 Dilara86: i don’t have a specific time in mind. 😁
>123 WelshBookworm: ❤️
>124 FlorenceArt: ❤️
>125 dianeham: hugs
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>125 dianeham: hugs
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136kidzdoc
>121 dchaikin: I'm definitely excited!
137Ameise1
>121 dchaikin: yeh, looking forward to it. Happy dance. 🎷🪗🎶🤸♂️
139dchaikin
Club Read 2025 is open! Come by and re-introduce yourself and get set up. 🙂
https://www.librarything.com/ngroups/24613/Club-Read-2025
https://www.librarything.com/ngroups/24613/Club-Read-2025
141raton-liseur
Thanks! A nice picture and a short and sweet intro. You've given us our cozy bookish place for next year!
144rv1988
>139 dchaikin: Yay! Thank you. Looking forward to 2025.
145dchaikin
>141 raton-liseur: credit to ELiz_M, who provided several public domain options. 🙂
146ELiz_M
>141 raton-liseur: From the Met Museum collection:
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/372692
A few years back I spent a wonderful day at the Met treasure-hunting all the "reading" paintings/drawings listed in a search of their art works.
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/372692
A few years back I spent a wonderful day at the Met treasure-hunting all the "reading" paintings/drawings listed in a search of their art works.
147rhian_of_oz
>139 dchaikin: Thanks Dan! And thanks to everyone who has volunteered to run threads
148raton-liseur
>146 ELiz_M: Thanks for the reference!
And what a nice way to visit a museum!
And what a nice way to visit a museum!
149LolaWalser
Maybe the group pics could rotate? I forget if there's a firm rule on this.
150AnnieMod
>149 LolaWalser: It is up to the admin (or if they allow other users to change them, to the users) - they can be changed every day if someone is around to change them (or even more often if someone really wants to...)
151dchaikin
>149 LolaWalser: what do you have in mind?
152LolaWalser
>151 dchaikin:
Nothing specific, I thought the question was clear enough? Some groups rotate the group picture and if here people are contributing pics they'd like to see, rotation might accommodate them all.
Nothing specific, I thought the question was clear enough? Some groups rotate the group picture and if here people are contributing pics they'd like to see, rotation might accommodate them all.
153dchaikin
>152 LolaWalser: nope. It wasn’t clear. Sorry. It could mean a million different things. Tell me more of what you have in mind. Like what pictures? Why rotate them? Who would submit them? What happens if i or someone else doesn’t like them… etc etc. The idea of rotating pictures never occurred to me. If you have a picture in mind, you can run it by me. I’m certainly interested in the idea of refreshing the picture. I just don’t have a ready collection.
154LolaWalser
>153 dchaikin:
You did notice the pics posted from >108 kidzdoc: on? That's what I meant--assuming posters are OK with it, you could rotate through them, or similar pictures. I have no candidate pictures myself or strong preferences any which way. It was just an idea that occurred to me when I saw those posts. Since I didn't know whether there were any firm rules about this, I asked whether there are firm rules about this.
You did notice the pics posted from >108 kidzdoc: on? That's what I meant--assuming posters are OK with it, you could rotate through them, or similar pictures. I have no candidate pictures myself or strong preferences any which way. It was just an idea that occurred to me when I saw those posts. Since I didn't know whether there were any firm rules about this, I asked whether there are firm rules about this.
155dchaikin
>154 LolaWalser: thanks. Had no idea. Also what a terrific suggestion. Wow… huh… thinking