1FlorenceArt
Last year I named this thread Short Stories And Microfiction, but then I learned that there are many different flavours of short fiction: short stories of course, microfiction, which is a subset of flash fiction, dribbles, drabbles and I'm sure I forgot some. This is the thread where we can discuss all of this in 2024.
Short novels (novellas, novelettes, are there other denominations?) are not to my mind short fiction, but who am I to judge if you want to discuss them here too ;-)
Welcome to the 2024 short fiction thread!
Short novels (novellas, novelettes, are there other denominations?) are not to my mind short fiction, but who am I to judge if you want to discuss them here too ;-)
Welcome to the 2024 short fiction thread!
2avaland
Will try to stop in from time to time. All my fiction is "short fiction" these days. Not sure there is much to say about the length of our choice, but I'll give it try :-)
"How Many Words Are in a Novel? Word Count by Genre & More
Word Count: Novel vs. Novella
Novel: 40,000+ words (though you're better off above 50,000 words)
Novella: 17,500-40,000 words.
Novelette: 7,500-20,000 words.
Short story: 1,000-10,000 words.
Flash fiction: 1-1,000 words."
"How Many Words Are in a Novel? Word Count by Genre & More
Word Count: Novel vs. Novella
Novel: 40,000+ words (though you're better off above 50,000 words)
Novella: 17,500-40,000 words.
Novelette: 7,500-20,000 words.
Short story: 1,000-10,000 words.
Flash fiction: 1-1,000 words."
3labfs39
I have been using Serial Reader to read some short stories. So far I have been wowed by three stories by Anton Chekhov: "The Darling", "The Bet", and "The Lady with a Dog".
4FlorenceArt
Starting the year with a weird short story. I found this because several people here mentioned The Time Traveller’s Almanac, I went to look for it but didn't find a digital edition, but I found this instead. I think I missed a lot of references in this one, but I liked it.
Errata by Jeff VanderMeer
Errata by Jeff VanderMeer
5avaland
Reading Paul Yoon's latest short fictionin The Hive and the Honey: Stories. His output is spare but oh, what great stuff.
6lisapeet
>5 avaland: I read a bit into that one for LJ's Best Short Stories, and really liked what I saw—I want to finish it at some point.
7chlorine
>4 FlorenceArt: It's weird that you weren't able to find a copy of The time traveller's almanac, I see it on kobo:
https://www.kobo.com/fr/en/ebook/the-time-traveller-s-almanac-3
Maybe you were tricked (as was I) by the difference of US/UK spelling, traveller vs. traveler?
I'll have a look at Errata, this seems intriguing.
https://www.kobo.com/fr/en/ebook/the-time-traveller-s-almanac-3
Maybe you were tricked (as was I) by the difference of US/UK spelling, traveller vs. traveler?
I'll have a look at Errata, this seems intriguing.
8FlorenceArt
>7 chlorine: Oh great, thank you! I’ve been having difficulties with the search at Kobo, but in this case I may simply have used the French spelling almanach. Or maybe it’s the spelling of traveller as you say.
9chlorine
>8 FlorenceArt: I used the French spelling also! I remember the trap of UK vs. US English from when I bought the book and I was careful to do two searches, one for "Time traveler's almanach" and the other for "Time traveller's almanach". I wasn't finding anything and I headed back to Calibre to see in which format I had purchased the book and notice that almanac is not spellt as I thought in English! :D
10AnnieMod
My first 2 2024 books fit here: Stand-in Companion is about 6K words and The Sixth Day and Other Stories contains 23 stories. Reviews in the works and in my thread.
>2 avaland: I tend to use the 7.5K/17K/40K split (the way the Hugos do it) simply because this was the only one that ever made sense to me and is unambiguous (as long as you stay in English anyway), with 1K for micro and flash fiction if I want to cut it even more. But your overlapping categories work as well - and 10K is a common place to cut the short stories in the literary world it seems.
>2 avaland: I tend to use the 7.5K/17K/40K split (the way the Hugos do it) simply because this was the only one that ever made sense to me and is unambiguous (as long as you stay in English anyway), with 1K for micro and flash fiction if I want to cut it even more. But your overlapping categories work as well - and 10K is a common place to cut the short stories in the literary world it seems.
11cindydavid4
>4 FlorenceArt: I like the authors work very much and love time travel; I was able to get it on kindle, so it must be out there somewhere!
Per my usual start of the year, I have best american short stories and best american science fiction, I suspect Ill find something interesting as I read to share with you all!
Per my usual start of the year, I have best american short stories and best american science fiction, I suspect Ill find something interesting as I read to share with you all!
12kjuliff
I’m looking forward to the recently published Roman Stories by Jhumpa Lahiri. I have it on hold at NYPL - 14 week wait.
13Julie_in_the_Library
>11 cindydavid4: I'm part-way through the Best American Science Fiction and Fantasy 2019, myself. I'm reading it as a between book, a la rocketjk, so it'll be a while before I finish.
I originally planned on saving all of my individual story reviews for when I was finished and ready to review the volume as a whole, but I think I'll post my story reviews here as I go, too. Then, when I'm done, I'll put them all in one post on my thread to go with the volume review.
I originally planned on saving all of my individual story reviews for when I was finished and ready to review the volume as a whole, but I think I'll post my story reviews here as I go, too. Then, when I'm done, I'll put them all in one post on my thread to go with the volume review.
14cindydavid4
yeah it will be a while for me too! and that how I review as well lots easier .
ETA oh thought you were talking about the 2024 edition; I might just have the 2019, will have to look,
ETA oh thought you were talking about the 2024 edition; I might just have the 2019, will have to look,
15FlorenceArt
I’m having difficulties keeping track of the short stories I read, I have quite a few books under way, plus the ones I read online…
Roman Stories has come up several times around here, it sounds interesting.
Roman Stories has come up several times around here, it sounds interesting.
16Julie_in_the_Library
"Pitcher Plant" by Adam-Troy Castro: 4 stars. 2nd person worked really well for me. I realized what was going on fairly early – as I suspect that readers are meant to do – and that only enhanced my enjoyment. Reminded me a little of volume 1 of The Sandman. Weird but in a good way. I enjoyed it.
"What Everyone Knows" by Seanan McGuire: 3.5 stars. well written, but not my particular subgenre.
"The Storyteller’s Replacement" by N. K. Jemisin: 3.5 stars. great up until the end with the second bit of the frame narrative. Not sure why the storyteller’s replacement washaving sex with their audience . Not sure why the audience was only one person. I had assumed a group setting. Would have worked better for me without the second part of the frame. I liked the folktale vibe.
"Poor Unfortunate Fools" by Silvia Park: 3.5 stars. The ending is too ambiguous for me me. Interesting. Love all the color detail and the in-universe document with footnotes format.
"Six Hangings in the Land of Unkillable Women" by Theodore McCombs: 4 stars. Intriguing concept. Great characterization and prose. Made me think. Ending felt right.
"Hard Mary" by Sofia Samatar: 4 stars. Very readable prose. I like the use of language, especially in regard to sensory detail, description, and metaphor. The way that Samatar conveys culture and character through dialogue is impressive, as well. More tension than I’d personally prefer right now, but Samatar handles it expertly. I’m not sure I completely get it, but it definitely made me think, and I enjoyed the reading process, so 4 stars.
"What Everyone Knows" by Seanan McGuire: 3.5 stars. well written, but not my particular subgenre.
"The Storyteller’s Replacement" by N. K. Jemisin: 3.5 stars. great up until the end with the second bit of the frame narrative. Not sure why the storyteller’s replacement was
"Poor Unfortunate Fools" by Silvia Park: 3.5 stars. The ending is too ambiguous for me me. Interesting. Love all the color detail and the in-universe document with footnotes format.
"Six Hangings in the Land of Unkillable Women" by Theodore McCombs: 4 stars. Intriguing concept. Great characterization and prose. Made me think. Ending felt right.
"Hard Mary" by Sofia Samatar: 4 stars. Very readable prose. I like the use of language, especially in regard to sensory detail, description, and metaphor. The way that Samatar conveys culture and character through dialogue is impressive, as well. More tension than I’d personally prefer right now, but Samatar handles it expertly. I’m not sure I completely get it, but it definitely made me think, and I enjoyed the reading process, so 4 stars.
17cindydavid4
>16 Julie_in_the_Library: Love Jemisin! is that a short story or part of a new novel? I read city we becameloved it been meaning to read the sequel (tho I think Im two behind!)
ETA misread the date of the collection. nvm
ETA misread the date of the collection. nvm
18Julie_in_the_Library
>17 cindydavid4: These are all short stories collected in The Best American Science Fiction and Fantasy 2019
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20Julie_in_the_Library
>17 cindydavid4: If you like N. K. Jemisin, by the way, you should try her Broken Earth trilogy. It absolutely blew me away.
It also occurs to me now, re "The Storyteller's Replacement," that there might have been a Scheherazade connection that I didn't pick up on, which would explain the bit at the end.
It also occurs to me now, re "The Storyteller's Replacement," that there might have been a Scheherazade connection that I didn't pick up on, which would explain the bit at the end.
21cindydavid4
>20 Julie_in_the_Library: oh yes that was my first read of hers and indeed blew me away. What an incredible master work. I did try to read her Inheritance trilogy but didn't get far, may have try again later. just realized I did read storytellers replacement, and recognized it in her dreamblood duology which was quite exceptional and and an introduction into the killing moon
also in that same collection, there is a short story that is the base of Broken earth
and finaly speaking of short stories, you must read her collection How Long 'Til Black Future Month? which has more excellent pieces as well. Happy reading!
also in that same collection, there is a short story that is the base of Broken earth
and finaly speaking of short stories, you must read her collection How Long 'Til Black Future Month? which has more excellent pieces as well. Happy reading!
23labfs39
Did any of you read the Machine of Death stories that came out in 2010? It was a contest of sorts. People were invited to submit a story all containing a machine that could predict how someone would die. The stories were published online and later collected into books. The stories ranged widely in plot, style, and level of writing, but some were fascinating.
Premise from Wikipedia: "All of the stories featured in Machine of Death center around a device which, when provided with a blood sample, can identify the way a person will die. The machine relays this information by printing a short word or phrase, which serves as the title of each story, on a small card. The machine is never wrong, but often vague or cryptic."
I listened to the stories on the Machine of Death podcast. The stories were read by the authors, not professionals, but I thought they were interesting.
Premise from Wikipedia: "All of the stories featured in Machine of Death center around a device which, when provided with a blood sample, can identify the way a person will die. The machine relays this information by printing a short word or phrase, which serves as the title of each story, on a small card. The machine is never wrong, but often vague or cryptic."
I listened to the stories on the Machine of Death podcast. The stories were read by the authors, not professionals, but I thought they were interesting.
24Julie_in_the_Library
>23 labfs39: Oh that is interesting! I hadn't heard of that before. Thanks for sharing!
25KeithChaffee
>23 labfs39: I loved those books!
26dianeham
>23 labfs39: That sounds familiar.
27Julie_in_the_Library
Two more reviews from 2019's Best American Science Fiction and Fantasy:
"Variations on a Theme from Turandot" by Ada Hoffmann: 4.5 stars. I loved it. I loved how meta it is. I loved the themes of stories and choice and agency. I loved the format. The prose is very well written. Absolutely beautiful.
"Through the Flash" by Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah: 4.5 stars. I was sucked in from the very beginning. Highly readable prose. Definite narrative transport. Beautiful. Loved the ending. Breathtaking. Interesting parallels with the last book I read, The 7 ½ Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle → time loops, the ways that they effect the people in them, what people do and become on a day with no consequences. That there are, in fact, consequences. Also, a more communal take on the usual time-loop narrative, which is very individual.
"Variations on a Theme from Turandot" by Ada Hoffmann: 4.5 stars. I loved it. I loved how meta it is. I loved the themes of stories and choice and agency. I loved the format. The prose is very well written. Absolutely beautiful.
"Through the Flash" by Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah: 4.5 stars. I was sucked in from the very beginning. Highly readable prose. Definite narrative transport. Beautiful. Loved the ending. Breathtaking. Interesting parallels with the last book I read, The 7 ½ Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle → time loops, the ways that they effect the people in them, what people do and become on a day with no consequences. That there are, in fact, consequences. Also, a more communal take on the usual time-loop narrative, which is very individual.
28FlorenceArt
>27 Julie_in_the_Library: These two sound great. I have the 2017 edition of this series, haven’t started reading it yet.
29Julie_in_the_Library
>28 FlorenceArt: They were excellent. So far, every story I've read in this collection has been at the very least good, and most of them have been very good. I'm impressed, and looking forward to the 2023 edition, which is on deck for when I finish the 2019. (I shouldn't be surprised, I supposed, given that the whole premise is that these are the best of the best for each year, rather than themed or author-based collections, but still).
I'm interested to hear about the 2017 edition when you get to it.
I'm interested to hear about the 2017 edition when you get to it.
30avaland
Finished The Hive and the Honey: Stories by Paul Yoon. Another excellent (slim) collection. I have Paui Yoon's four previous collections -- such excellent stories and he writes with empathy for his characters... (similar to Claire Keegen in that respect).
31RidgewayGirl
Dearborn is a short story collection by Ghassan Zeineddine that is phenomenal -- all the stories are centered on the Arab American community in that city and there's not a single weak story in the collection.
>27 Julie_in_the_Library: Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah's debut story collection, Friday Black, is superlatively good.
>27 Julie_in_the_Library: Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah's debut story collection, Friday Black, is superlatively good.
32cindydavid4
I am so excited to finally get a stroke of the pen for my birthday and loving these stories. my fav so far is the fossil beach, this will be fun reading
33Julie_in_the_Library
>31 RidgewayGirl: I had already added it to my tbr on the strength of that one story alone. It is, in fact, from Friday Black, according to my anthology.
>32 cindydavid4: First of all, I didn't know about that collection, and now I am very interested. Second of all, your touchstone for "The Fossil Beach" goes to an unrelated police procedural, just fyi. A lot of short stories aren't in LT as their own works.
>32 cindydavid4: First of all, I didn't know about that collection, and now I am very interested. Second of all, your touchstone for "The Fossil Beach" goes to an unrelated police procedural, just fyi. A lot of short stories aren't in LT as their own works.
34cindydavid4
I am so excited to finally get a stroke of the pen for my birthday and loving these stories. my fav so far is the fossil beach, by terry pratchett. this will be fun reading
35cindydavid4
>33 Julie_in_the_Library: got it, thx!
36cindydavid4
Terry Pratchetts' new' collection of stories a stroke of the pen were good; certainly shows the beginnings of his talent, dry humor, fun plots and unusal characters, but none of the really grabbed me, tho I got a good chuckle from "wanted a fat jolly man in a red wooly hat" and" how scrooge saw the spectral light and went happily back to humbug" But the origial story that started the search "the quest for the key" is my fav Loved the forward by Neil Gaiman and the intro by Colin Smith with background of how the stories were discovered.
well worth reading if you are a fan
well worth reading if you are a fan
37wandering_star
I liked the machine of death stories! I still think about them from time to time.
Good idea to post reviews of short stories as you get to them rather than waiting to finish the whole book - I might steal that idea!
Good idea to post reviews of short stories as you get to them rather than waiting to finish the whole book - I might steal that idea!
38lisapeet
>27 Julie_in_the_Library: I'm not surprised that this is a strong collection—the editor, Carmen Maria Machado, is such an outside-the-box literary fiction writer, so I'd expect it to be good. I don't have that one, but my library does—I'll check it out.
39dianeham
What do people think of Lydia Davis? I keep reading that she is the master of the short form.
40FlorenceArt
>39 dianeham: I’ve been reading through a collection of hers. I like it, though I wouldn’t call it riveting. They are mostly very short, it’s a form I like.
41Julie_in_the_Library
Why Don't We Just Kill the Kid In the Omelas Hole by Isabel J. Kim at Clarke's World Magazine: 4 stars
I happened to see a post linking to this story on social media, so I clicked and gave it a read. I'm glad that I did.
This story is, as the title signals, a response - or perhaps more accurately a continuation of, or a riff on - Ursula K. Le Guin's 1793 original, "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas." Without having read the original, this story would be not just meaningless, but incomprehensible. This is not a weakness of Kim's story; it is just an inescapable fact. This story is, inherently, intertextual.
I like that sort of thing, so that wasn't a problem for me. But if that's offputting for you, you're going to have trouble with this one.
The story kept my attention from start to finish. The length was just right, not too long or too short. Kim nails the cadence and narrative voice of the original, while also situating the world of Omelas in the world we live in today. Like Le Guin, she poses lots of questions and provides no easy answers. This is a story designed to make you think, and it does that job well.
There are, as in the original, no individual characters with names and backstories. The plot is loose and open ended. This is very much philosophical fiction, and as such, it's much more concerned with the questions it's raising than the specifics of the narrative it uses to frame them.
Why Don't We Just Kill the Kid In the Omelas Hole is definitely not everyone's cup of tea, but it does what it sets out to do very well, indeed. I enjoyed reading it, and I'm still thinking about it days later. 4 stars.
I happened to see a post linking to this story on social media, so I clicked and gave it a read. I'm glad that I did.
This story is, as the title signals, a response - or perhaps more accurately a continuation of, or a riff on - Ursula K. Le Guin's 1793 original, "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas." Without having read the original, this story would be not just meaningless, but incomprehensible. This is not a weakness of Kim's story; it is just an inescapable fact. This story is, inherently, intertextual.
I like that sort of thing, so that wasn't a problem for me. But if that's offputting for you, you're going to have trouble with this one.
The story kept my attention from start to finish. The length was just right, not too long or too short. Kim nails the cadence and narrative voice of the original, while also situating the world of Omelas in the world we live in today. Like Le Guin, she poses lots of questions and provides no easy answers. This is a story designed to make you think, and it does that job well.
There are, as in the original, no individual characters with names and backstories. The plot is loose and open ended. This is very much philosophical fiction, and as such, it's much more concerned with the questions it's raising than the specifics of the narrative it uses to frame them.
Why Don't We Just Kill the Kid In the Omelas Hole is definitely not everyone's cup of tea, but it does what it sets out to do very well, indeed. I enjoyed reading it, and I'm still thinking about it days later. 4 stars.
42cindydavid4
N K Jemison has a similar riff on the Omela story in her collection How long 'til black future month "the ones who stay to fight" which i liked quite a lot.
43FlorenceArt
>41 Julie_in_the_Library: Sounds interesting! I read LeGuin’s story only recently. I think I will read this one.
44Julie_in_the_Library
>42 cindydavid4: Omelas is something of a staple in (certain sections of) the speculative fiction world - and a staple of quite a lot of curricula at the high school and college level, at least in the US - so there's a fair number of stories riffing on it. I'll be interested to see Jemisin's take when I get to it - as I'm sure I will eventually.
>43 FlorenceArt: I'll be interested to hear what you think of it.
>43 FlorenceArt: I'll be interested to hear what you think of it.
45KeithChaffee
>44 Julie_in_the_Library: "a fair number of stories riffing on it"
Sounds like a great idea for an anthology.
Sounds like a great idea for an anthology.
46chlorine
>41 Julie_in_the_Library: Should one be _very_ familiar with the original Le Guin story before reading the Kim one? I read the Le Guin story but only remember the outline, would that be enough to tackle the Kim story?
47labfs39
For those who are interested, the Le Guin story is available online at https://files.libcom.org/files/ursula-k-le-guin-the-ones-who-walk-away-from-omel... for free. It's only four pages, so quick enough reading. (I think it's complete.)
48dianeham
Here’s a link to the N.K. Jemisin story that Cindy mentioned. https://www.lightspeedmagazine.com/fiction/the-ones-who-stay-and-fight/
49cindydavid4
thx diane I reread it and still am amazed at how wonderful it is, esp when you know the story of the Omalas
50rv1988
Since I am the one going on and on about podcasts, here's some recommendations for podcasts that have audio narrations of short stories.
The New Yorker Fiction Podcast: This has authors published in the New Yorker, choosing, reading out, and commenting on a short story previously published in The New Yorker by another author. The quality varies: not all writers are good at speaking, or narrating, but sometimes it can be very good. I recently listened to and enjoyed a story by Colm Toibin read by Hisham Matar, and one by Margaret Atwood reading Alice Munro.
Levar Burton Reads: Actor Levar Burton has a huge catalogue of mostly sci-fi fiction that he chooses and reads aloud. He's an excellent narrator, and will add a few comments of his own at the end of the story. Some of the stories mentioned on this thread have appeared on his podcast. He recently did Paper Menagerie by Ken Liu which was very good.
Selected Shorts: These are audio recordings of live performances of short stories by actors, hosted by the writer Meg Wolitzer. There's usually several stories, each narrated by a different person. They recently did a Ray Bradbury special with Neil Gaiman, who introduced three short stories by Bradbury, performed by actors: There Will Come Soft Rains,” read by Yetide Badaki; “The Fog Horn,” read by Javier Muñoz, and “Embroidery,” read by Kirsten Vangsness
The New Yorker Fiction Podcast: This has authors published in the New Yorker, choosing, reading out, and commenting on a short story previously published in The New Yorker by another author. The quality varies: not all writers are good at speaking, or narrating, but sometimes it can be very good. I recently listened to and enjoyed a story by Colm Toibin read by Hisham Matar, and one by Margaret Atwood reading Alice Munro.
Levar Burton Reads: Actor Levar Burton has a huge catalogue of mostly sci-fi fiction that he chooses and reads aloud. He's an excellent narrator, and will add a few comments of his own at the end of the story. Some of the stories mentioned on this thread have appeared on his podcast. He recently did Paper Menagerie by Ken Liu which was very good.
Selected Shorts: These are audio recordings of live performances of short stories by actors, hosted by the writer Meg Wolitzer. There's usually several stories, each narrated by a different person. They recently did a Ray Bradbury special with Neil Gaiman, who introduced three short stories by Bradbury, performed by actors: There Will Come Soft Rains,” read by Yetide Badaki; “The Fog Horn,” read by Javier Muñoz, and “Embroidery,” read by Kirsten Vangsness
51labfs39
>50 rv1988: Since I've stalled in my audiobook listening, I wonder if I should try some podcasts? Perhaps a shorter form would work better and help train my listening ability. Thanks for the recommendations, they all look interesting.
52rv1988
>51 labfs39: I like these, because it works well when I have less time to give (an audiobook is a whole commitment). Also, sorry, I just realised I wrote 'sci fi fiction'.
53labfs39
>52 rv1988: Since I only listen sporadically, usually when I happen to be in the car alone which is rare, I think podcasts might work well for me. I subscribed to all three and will dabble next time I have the opportunity. I used to listen to Books on the Nightstand and a couple of others that were about books, not works in and of themselves.
54Julie_in_the_Library
Podcasts are great! I have tons that I love if anyone is ever looking for recs.
>46 chlorine: I think remembering the premise and basic idea is enough.
>45 KeithChaffee: It would be a great premise for an anothology. Not all of the riffs I've encountered are officially published works, but I'd guess there are enough that are to put together an anothology, if all the authors agreed.
>46 chlorine: I think remembering the premise and basic idea is enough.
>45 KeithChaffee: It would be a great premise for an anothology. Not all of the riffs I've encountered are officially published works, but I'd guess there are enough that are to put together an anothology, if all the authors agreed.
56labfs39
>54 Julie_in_the_Library: If you wanted to make a list, Julie, I would certainly bookmark it for future reference.
57chlorine
>54 Julie_in_the_Library: That's good to know about the Kim story, thanks! I'll get to it at some point, but not right now, because:
I'm reading the finalists for Clarkesworld magazine to be able to vote. The novelettes are out of the topic of this thread so I won't mention them, but the first short story I read, Better living through algorithms by Naomi Kritzer was really good!
It's about a phone app that goes viral whose advertised goal is to make users happy. The story was original and very well written.
I'm reading the finalists for Clarkesworld magazine to be able to vote. The novelettes are out of the topic of this thread so I won't mention them, but the first short story I read, Better living through algorithms by Naomi Kritzer was really good!
It's about a phone app that goes viral whose advertised goal is to make users happy. The story was original and very well written.
58chlorine
I have read two other of the Clarkesworld short story finalists and they seem to be all better than each other.
The Mub by Thomas Ha was a really good, disquiting story reminiscent of older fantastic stories, and Zeta-Epsilon by Isabel J. Kim was a gem that is difficult to describe without spoiling because the way the construction is original and reveals the story in a very interesting way. It's about spaceships and AI and free will and ethics but also so more than that.
Some people in my online circles have been raving about Isabel J. Kim as the new emerging talent to follow in SFF short stories. I had read one of her stories, The Narrative Implications of your untimely Death, and was not swept away. Now with this story I finally understand what the fuss is about.
The Mub by Thomas Ha was a really good, disquiting story reminiscent of older fantastic stories, and Zeta-Epsilon by Isabel J. Kim was a gem that is difficult to describe without spoiling because the way the construction is original and reveals the story in a very interesting way. It's about spaceships and AI and free will and ethics but also so more than that.
Some people in my online circles have been raving about Isabel J. Kim as the new emerging talent to follow in SFF short stories. I had read one of her stories, The Narrative Implications of your untimely Death, and was not swept away. Now with this story I finally understand what the fuss is about.
59Julie_in_the_Library
>58 chlorine: Ooh, adding those to my TBR! (By which I mean opening them in tabs to sit on my laptop until I remember to get to them...)
60cindydavid4
reading Kate Atkinsons collection of shorts normal rules dont apply. The first story, the void started out good, a touch of sci fi , but then it ended and I am not sure what the point of it was. Read the second one, another downer. Not sure whats going on, I have always loved her work but she seems to have taken a different turn now
61FlorenceArt
>58 chlorine: Thanks for the links! I have saved them to my pocket account so they should be available on my Kobo. Now all I have to do is read them……….
62chlorine
>59 Julie_in_the_Library: >61 FlorenceArt: If either of you have an ebook reader (obviously Florence does :), are you aware of the dotepub browser extension? It transforms a webpage into an epub (or kindle ebook) that you can then upload to your reader. It is smart about it as well by removing the clutter like things that are in the side bar etc. and focusing on the main text.
63labfs39
>62 chlorine: Thanks! I just tried dotepub with a short story and it worked like a charm. Great tool
64chlorine
>63 labfs39: Glad it worked well for you! There's also another extension called epubPress that will convert several pages opened in different tabs in a single epub.
65Julie_in_the_Library
>62 chlorine: I didn't know about that. Thanks! I don't have an ereader, but it's still good to know.
66labfs39
>64 chlorine: Thanks, I'll note it. I'm still fairly new to e-readers, only having taken the plunge last year.
67FlorenceArt
>62 chlorine: Thanks! My preferred method to get articles on my reader is via Pocket (IMO the main selling point for the Kobo, apart from the fact that it’s not Amazon), but that doesn’t always work, so it’s good to have an alternative.
68chlorine
>67 FlorenceArt: This sounds like a good selling point for kobo indeed. :)
69janoorani24
I've read three short stories so far this year: Jokester by Isaac Asimov, an excerpt from The Song of Roland (55 pages), and The Jilting of Granny Weatherall by Katherine Anne Porter. I found Jokester on the Internet Archive - another good source for short stories.
70rv1988
The Paris Review has unpaywalled a story by Junichiro Tanizaki titled The Victim, translated by Ivan Morris, and also released an audio reading of the story by actor George Takei. I took the opportunity to re-read it, and am dropping the links here for anyone else who wants to.
https://www.theparisreview.org/fiction/4872/the-victim-junichiro-tanizaki
https://www.theparisreview.org/podcast/6070/the-victim-by-junichiro-tanizaki
https://www.theparisreview.org/fiction/4872/the-victim-junichiro-tanizaki
https://www.theparisreview.org/podcast/6070/the-victim-by-junichiro-tanizaki
71chlorine
This might be interesting to some.
I don't understand the website Rocket Stack Rank well yet, but they seem to propose lists of short stories while keeping track of which stories have been recommended by various reviewers.
Here is a list that is the compilation of the Locus 2023 recommended reading list as well as Rocket Stack Ranks's most recommanded stories:
http://www.rocketstackrank.com/2024/02/annotated-2023-locus-reading-list-for.htm...
The stories highlighted in yellow are the ones that are freely available online. From what I understand the stories are given points if they are recommended by different sources, and the stories in the list are ranked by decreasing total number of points.
I don't understand the website Rocket Stack Rank well yet, but they seem to propose lists of short stories while keeping track of which stories have been recommended by various reviewers.
Here is a list that is the compilation of the Locus 2023 recommended reading list as well as Rocket Stack Ranks's most recommanded stories:
http://www.rocketstackrank.com/2024/02/annotated-2023-locus-reading-list-for.htm...
The stories highlighted in yellow are the ones that are freely available online. From what I understand the stories are given points if they are recommended by different sources, and the stories in the list are ranked by decreasing total number of points.
72kjuliff
>60 cindydavid4: I really enjoyed Kate Atkinson’s earlier novels, but went off her last one about the nightclub people. She was riding on a wave that has flattened.
73dchaikin
>71 chlorine: well, I’m intrigued looking at the site, but a bit overwhelmed too.
74chlorine
>73 dchaikin: On top of the complexity of the site and ranking system, what I feel overwhelmed by is that the commentary says the list contains 245 stories by 208 authors. I have started reading many more short stories since a year or so in the hope of becoming somewhat well read in the speculative fiction short fiction scene, but these numbers show that the quantity of works is so huge that my goal seems hopeless.
This being said, since I started keeping track of the stories I read last April, I read 228 short stories by 146 different authors, which seems enormous to me. But I really don't feel like I have any command of the field.
This being said, since I started keeping track of the stories I read last April, I read 228 short stories by 146 different authors, which seems enormous to me. But I really don't feel like I have any command of the field.
75Julie_in_the_Library
>74 chlorine: You might want to start with a series like the Best American Science Fiction and Fantasy, and other award lists. That'll give you a nice survey of high quality stories, enough to at least break into the field a little more, and give you an idea of trends, topics, etc.
76chlorine
>75 Julie_in_the_Library: I do read Best of the Year anthologies. :) I was planning to buy Neil Clarke's for 2023. They are indeed a good starting point but I think the numbers simply show that at my reading rate I just can't hope to have a broad view of the field.
I think I'll focus on following editors I like in the future.I really wish Strahan's Best of the year antholgogies had kept coming out. I really loved the two I read.
I think I'll focus on following editors I like in the future.I really wish Strahan's Best of the year antholgogies had kept coming out. I really loved the two I read.
77Julie_in_the_Library
>76 chlorine: That's fair. I'd also say that speculative fiction is a very, very broad category. Keeping a wide-lens view of the entire spec fic short story world, even just in English, or just in America, might be a task too big for anyone who wants to also pursue other reading.
The Letters Regarding Jeeves book club has started with "Jeeves Takes Charge," from 1916. I thought that it was fine, but not actually funny. 3 stars. Hopefully, they get better. Though given the reactions of others doing the group read, this may be a problem of audience, rather than text, so to speak.
The Letters Regarding Jeeves book club has started with "Jeeves Takes Charge," from 1916. I thought that it was fine, but not actually funny. 3 stars. Hopefully, they get better. Though given the reactions of others doing the group read, this may be a problem of audience, rather than text, so to speak.
78labfs39
>70 rv1988: Thanks to Rasdhar, I read "The Victim" by Junichiro Tanizaki, which has some interesting connotations about women reclaiming power. And thanks to Avatiakh, I read a graphic adaptation of a short story by Giacomo Debenedetti called Rome 16 October 1943. The adaptation is by Sarah Laing. It's about the roundup of Italian Jews in Rome on that date. Very moving.
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83janoorani24
I read Obasute, by Yasushi Inoue last Saturday. It's in the collection The Izu Dancer and other Stories. The writing is spare, stripped of excessive description. I suppose it could be a story about people who want out of their lives, and includes a couple of examples from the narrator's family who have left what would be considered successful lives for new lives that aren't really successful, but where they have more freedom to be themselves. On the surface, it's about a man's obsession with an ancient Japanese legend where people who reach the age of 70 are taken to a mountain, Obasute, and abandoned. Overall, the story evokes a feeling of loneliness and abandonment.
I want to point out that the short story collection in this case has only one story, the Izu Dancer, by Kawabata, who won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1968. The other three stories are by Inoue, who was a prominent Japanese writer, but not well known outside of Japan. I purchased the book in 1974 in Japan.
I want to point out that the short story collection in this case has only one story, the Izu Dancer, by Kawabata, who won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1968. The other three stories are by Inoue, who was a prominent Japanese writer, but not well known outside of Japan. I purchased the book in 1974 in Japan.
84dchaikin
>83 janoorani24: how interesting. Also, you’ve had that book 50 years! Wow.
85dianeham
>83 janoorani24: I’m reading Thousand Cranes by Yasunari Kawabata.
As far as short fiction goes - I am reading Samuel Johnson Is Indignant: Stories by Lydia Davis. First thing I’ve read by her. Liking it so far.
As far as short fiction goes - I am reading Samuel Johnson Is Indignant: Stories by Lydia Davis. First thing I’ve read by her. Liking it so far.
86labfs39
>85 dianeham: I'm looking forward to your impressions of Thousand Cranes. I like Kawabata's writing.
87FlorenceArt
I read The Izu Dancer some years ago, after I visited the spa at Izu with Japanese friends. I think I felt a little disappointed by the story, though I don’t remember why. Maybe I was expecting too much.
A very long time ago I loved The Hunting Gun by Inoue. It’s probably more a novella than a short story though. Maybe I should revisit it.
A very long time ago I loved The Hunting Gun by Inoue. It’s probably more a novella than a short story though. Maybe I should revisit it.
88rv1988
I finished Isaac Asimov's Gold - a collection of short stories, and essays that were unpublished at the time of his death. Some good ones there, including the titular story, Gold, which won him a Hugo Award.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_(Asimov_book)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_(short_story)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_(Asimov_book)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_(short_story)
89cindydavid4
I started reading the greatest stories of Edith Wharton last fall, but put it aside due to many books I needed to ready over the holidays. So this morning insomnia made me look for a diversion, happened upon it, and started reading though the morning. My goodness these are good . Includes his fathers son, the reckoning,the fullness of life, the descent of man. my favorite of all is a venitian nights entertainment Very fun reading.
90janoorani24
I read one short story from The Collected Stories of Isaac Babel, Mama, Rimma, and Alla last week.
The story covers day in the life of a mother and her two daughters in Moscow. It's hard to be precise as to the time of the story, but it was first published in a Russian literary journal in 1916, and three of the characters are students, and no mention of the war is made, so I think it may be set sometime shortly before the start of the World War One. Hardly anything happens in this one short day, but there is still a lot of detail. The maid "had begun putting on airs and walked out," the electric bill came...two of three student borders announce they are leaving and want their rent money returned...one of the students is Polish, resents the mother, lusts after the older daughter...the father is a magistrate in faraway Kamchatka and powerless to assist. The two daughters have their own difficulties, the youngest is seventeen and loves someone who doesn't love her, and the oldest wants freedom from her mother.
The translation (by Peter Constantine) seems excellent to me. I got the sense of a largish, messy house with many rooms but no privacy. All of the words are perfectly placed and barren of excess emotion. I feel so sorry for this long ago imaginary family with their money woes, personal sorrows, and the father thousands of miles away.
The story covers day in the life of a mother and her two daughters in Moscow. It's hard to be precise as to the time of the story, but it was first published in a Russian literary journal in 1916, and three of the characters are students, and no mention of the war is made, so I think it may be set sometime shortly before the start of the World War One. Hardly anything happens in this one short day, but there is still a lot of detail. The maid "had begun putting on airs and walked out," the electric bill came...two of three student borders announce they are leaving and want their rent money returned...one of the students is Polish, resents the mother, lusts after the older daughter...the father is a magistrate in faraway Kamchatka and powerless to assist. The two daughters have their own difficulties, the youngest is seventeen and loves someone who doesn't love her, and the oldest wants freedom from her mother.
The translation (by Peter Constantine) seems excellent to me. I got the sense of a largish, messy house with many rooms but no privacy. All of the words are perfectly placed and barren of excess emotion. I feel so sorry for this long ago imaginary family with their money woes, personal sorrows, and the father thousands of miles away.
91dchaikin
>90 janoorani24: The story sounds terrific
92cindydavid4
>89 cindydavid4: never mind. Just read the introduction to the book and not only tells you wbat will happen in each story, she maked Edith a very sorrowful person which I dont think she isl I may come back to it, but for now reading four lost cities for the non fiction challenge theme this mont:forensics
93dianeham
dnf’d Samuel Johnson Is Indignant: Stories by Lydia Davis. I was very unimpressed and just didn’t want to read any more.
94wandering_star
>87 FlorenceArt: Lilisin and I just took the "Odoriko" (dancing girl) train down the Izu peninsula last month - there is a statue of the girl at the station where we got off (for a cherry blossom festival) and in the station, a shelf of copies of the book for you to borrow and post back when you are done.
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96cindydavid4
>94 wandering_star: that sounds like so much fun
97labfs39
>94 wandering_star: I love LT meetups! Even when I'm not there, it's fun to read about them.
98cindydavid4
I see now why so many lovedladies lunch Loved these stories of close life long friends and their stories. I think my favorites Dandelion, Making Good When Lottie Lost Bessie and Ladies Zoom, but there is not a bad one in the bunch
So this my first experience with this writer, I see she has written some fiction and other work. can anyone suggest where I should start?
So this my first experience with this writer, I see she has written some fiction and other work. can anyone suggest where I should start?
99kjuliff
I like her sense of humor.
“She called Henry and said ‘can you remember exactly why we got divorced?’
You always think things can be explained exactly, said Henry.
Oh really she said. Is this one of those things I always think?
If you want to argue you’ll have to call back after I’ve had my coffee, said Henry.
Anything else I have to do? she said and hung up.”
I can’t find anything other than short stories by her in my library. I think Ladies’ Lunch is her most recent work.
“She called Henry and said ‘can you remember exactly why we got divorced?’
You always think things can be explained exactly, said Henry.
Oh really she said. Is this one of those things I always think?
If you want to argue you’ll have to call back after I’ve had my coffee, said Henry.
Anything else I have to do? she said and hung up.”
I can’t find anything other than short stories by her in my library. I think Ladies’ Lunch is her most recent work.
100Julie_in_the_Library
I've also read two more Jeeves stories: "Extricating Young Gussie" from 1915, and "Leave it to Jeeves" from 1916.
"Extricating Young Gussie" by P.G. Wodehouse: 3 stars. fun enough, though not actually funny.
"Leave it to Jeeves" by P.G. Wodehouse: 3.5 stars. fun, entertaining, and enjoyable, though not laugh out loud funny
"Extricating Young Gussie" by P.G. Wodehouse: 3 stars. fun enough, though not actually funny.
"Leave it to Jeeves" by P.G. Wodehouse: 3.5 stars. fun, entertaining, and enjoyable, though not laugh out loud funny
101FlorenceArt
>99 kjuliff: That is funny!
102labfs39
>99 kjuliff: Lol, I can relate.
103cindydavid4
>99 kjuliff: yes that got me laughing; lots of similar relationship stuff I could relate to and smiled.
104rv1988
Crossposting from the lists thread. Here are the novelettes and short stories longlisted for the 2023 Nebula Awards. With one exception, all are available online for free.
Best Novelette
A Short Biography of a Conscious Chair”, Renan Bernardo (Samovar 2/23) http://samovar.strangehorizons.com/2023/02/27/a-short-biography-of-a-conscious-c...
I Am AI, Ai Jiang (Shortwave)
“The Year Without Sunshine”, Naomi Kritzer (Uncanny 11-12/23) https://www.uncannymagazine.com/article/the-year-without-sunshine/
“Imagine: Purple-Haired Girl Shooting Down The Moon”, Angela Liu (Clarkesworld 6/23) https://clarkesworldmagazine.com/liu_06_23/
“Saturday’s Song”, Wole Talabi (Lightspeed 5/23) https://www.lightspeedmagazine.com/fiction/saturdays-song/
“Six Versions of My Brother Found Under the Bridge”, Eugenia Triantafyllou (Uncanny 9-10/23) https://www.uncannymagazine.com/article/six-versions-of-my-brother-found-under-t...
Best Short Story
“Once Upon a Time at The Oakmont”, P.A. Cornell (Fantasy 10/23) https://www.fantasy-magazine.com/fm/fiction/once-upon-a-time-at-the-oakmont/
“Tantie Merle and the Farmhand 4200”, R.S.A Garcia (Uncanny 7-8/23) https://www.uncannymagazine.com/article/tantie-merle-and-the-farmhand-4200/
“Window Boy”, Thomas Ha (Clarkesworld 8/23) https://clarkesworldmagazine.com/ha_08_23/
“The Sound of Children Screaming”, Rachael K. Jones (Nightmare 10/23) https://www.nightmare-magazine.com/fiction/the-sound-of-children-screaming/
“Better Living Through Algorithms”, Naomi Kritzer (Clarkesworld 5/23) https://clarkesworldmagazine.com/kritzer_05_23/
“Bad Doors”, John Wiswell (Uncanny 1-2/23) https://www.uncannymagazine.com/article/bad-doors/
Best Novelette
A Short Biography of a Conscious Chair”, Renan Bernardo (Samovar 2/23) http://samovar.strangehorizons.com/2023/02/27/a-short-biography-of-a-conscious-c...
I Am AI, Ai Jiang (Shortwave)
“The Year Without Sunshine”, Naomi Kritzer (Uncanny 11-12/23) https://www.uncannymagazine.com/article/the-year-without-sunshine/
“Imagine: Purple-Haired Girl Shooting Down The Moon”, Angela Liu (Clarkesworld 6/23) https://clarkesworldmagazine.com/liu_06_23/
“Saturday’s Song”, Wole Talabi (Lightspeed 5/23) https://www.lightspeedmagazine.com/fiction/saturdays-song/
“Six Versions of My Brother Found Under the Bridge”, Eugenia Triantafyllou (Uncanny 9-10/23) https://www.uncannymagazine.com/article/six-versions-of-my-brother-found-under-t...
Best Short Story
“Once Upon a Time at The Oakmont”, P.A. Cornell (Fantasy 10/23) https://www.fantasy-magazine.com/fm/fiction/once-upon-a-time-at-the-oakmont/
“Tantie Merle and the Farmhand 4200”, R.S.A Garcia (Uncanny 7-8/23) https://www.uncannymagazine.com/article/tantie-merle-and-the-farmhand-4200/
“Window Boy”, Thomas Ha (Clarkesworld 8/23) https://clarkesworldmagazine.com/ha_08_23/
“The Sound of Children Screaming”, Rachael K. Jones (Nightmare 10/23) https://www.nightmare-magazine.com/fiction/the-sound-of-children-screaming/
“Better Living Through Algorithms”, Naomi Kritzer (Clarkesworld 5/23) https://clarkesworldmagazine.com/kritzer_05_23/
“Bad Doors”, John Wiswell (Uncanny 1-2/23) https://www.uncannymagazine.com/article/bad-doors/
106Julie_in_the_Library
>104 rv1988: Thanks for sharing.
107FlorenceArt
>104 rv1988: Thanks for the list!
108FlorenceArt
Better Living Through Algorithms by Naomi Kritzer
I had this on my reader following a mention by Clémence/Chlorine I think, and was reminded of it when >104 rv1988: posted the longlist for the Nebula awards. I was a little disappointed. It's cute and very naive.
On The Fox Roads by Nghi Vo
I don't remember why this one was on my reader. I liked it. It's weird and poetic and rather moving. And weird.
I had this on my reader following a mention by Clémence/Chlorine I think, and was reminded of it when >104 rv1988: posted the longlist for the Nebula awards. I was a little disappointed. It's cute and very naive.
On The Fox Roads by Nghi Vo
I don't remember why this one was on my reader. I liked it. It's weird and poetic and rather moving. And weird.
109Julie_in_the_Library
>108 FlorenceArt: I loved On the Fox Roads when I read it.
111robnbrwn
>2 avaland: Is there a table of how these work out into pages anywhere?
112AnnieMod
>111 robnbrwn: That will depend on the publisher, the format of the book and how they handle spaces between chapters (and even for the same publisher, they change fonts and what's not).
So you can have a 15,000 words novelette taking 150 pages, a 60K words novel at 120 pages (especially the very old mass market paperbacks... but some modern POD renditions as well) and a 39K words novella taking 288 pages (all of those are actual books I had seen).
So you can have a 15,000 words novelette taking 150 pages, a 60K words novel at 120 pages (especially the very old mass market paperbacks... but some modern POD renditions as well) and a 39K words novella taking 288 pages (all of those are actual books I had seen).
113dchaikin
>111 robnbrwn: roughly 280 words per page for fiction (with a wide variations)
So:
Novel: 40,000+ words = roughly >140 chlorine: pages
Novella: 17,500-40,000 words. ~60 to 140 pages
Novelette: 7,500-20,000 words. ~25 to 70 pages
Short story: 1,000-10,000 words. ~3-35 pages
Flash fiction: 1-1,000 words. - less than 3 pages
So:
Novel: 40,000+ words = roughly >140 chlorine: pages
Novella: 17,500-40,000 words. ~60 to 140 pages
Novelette: 7,500-20,000 words. ~25 to 70 pages
Short story: 1,000-10,000 words. ~3-35 pages
Flash fiction: 1-1,000 words. - less than 3 pages
114rv1988
Levar Burton (the actor who hosted Reading Rainbow on PBS, for Americans here) has a podcast where he selects and reads out short fiction. Recently he read Percival Everett's story, 'The Appropriation of Cultures'. We've been talking about Everett on several threads, so here are some links.
Link to the story text (you need JSTOR access - your library might have it) https://www.jstor.org/stable/3299316
Link to the audio, read by Levar Burton
Apple podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-appropriation-of-cultures-by-percival-...
Spotify https://open.spotify.com/episode/7E1dvud8Z7PtBSGadBSx6q
it's on Pandora too, but I don't have access to Pandora in my country
Link to the story text (you need JSTOR access - your library might have it) https://www.jstor.org/stable/3299316
Link to the audio, read by Levar Burton
Apple podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-appropriation-of-cultures-by-percival-...
Spotify https://open.spotify.com/episode/7E1dvud8Z7PtBSGadBSx6q
it's on Pandora too, but I don't have access to Pandora in my country
115FlorenceArt
I read a strange short story by Balzac because it was mentioned in the catalog of the Gilles Aillaud exhibition I saw a few weeks ago. Une passion dans le désert (A Passion in the Desert) is the weird story of a passion between a soldier of Napoleon lost in the desert and… a leopard. I’m still not sure what to make of that ☺️
116avaland
Have been reading Born Into This stories by Adam Thompson. The young author is an Aboriginal from Tasmania. The stories, which I'm enjoying, are about 6-8 pages, published in the US by Two Dollar Radio
117labfs39
>116 avaland: Ooh, that sounds really interesting, and I've never read anything from Tasmania.
118cindydavid4
now reading The Mammoth Book of Time Travel SF which have many interesting takes on time travel, one of my faves is the truth about weena a sequel to Well's time Machine others includeThe Catch by Kage Baker ,Time Gypsy by Ellen Klages,try and change the past by Fritz leiber and Red Letter Day by Kristine Kathryn Rusch. but my fav is Molly Brown - Women on the Brink of a Cataclysm a take on the SF meme of finding yourself while time traveling. written by a comedian, its interesting and hilarious. if you are in to the subject, think youd find this collection a good read
119FlorenceArt
>116 avaland: Born Into This does sound interesting (your touchstone is wrong btw). Unfortunately it’s not available as ebook, which is weird and frustrating as it seems to be a recent release.
120AnnieMod
>119 FlorenceArt: It is but not as a Kindle book - had to get it as a epub one and read it on my tablet instead. Or at least I managed to get it from the library as an ebook 2.5 years ago (in the University of Queensland Press edition - I wonder if the US edition did not cause this one to become unavailable).
121FlorenceArt
>120 AnnieMod: OK, thanks, good to know there is probably an epub available somewhere, just not to me. Even the university of Queensland didn’t show me that option. I guess I could get it by using a VPN, if I’m ever motivated enough ☺️
122AnnieMod
>121 FlorenceArt: I just looked, it still can be borrowed from my library (as OverDrive Read or EPUB ebook). Not sure why the publisher site does not have it (anymore?) but if you have access to a US library, it may have it. And it looks like Two Dollar Radio also have an ebook: https://www.amazon.com/Born-Into-This-Adam-Thompson-ebook/dp/B08XKMB1B4/
Maybe try the US publisher site: https://twodollarradio.com/products/born-into-this ? Not sure what you will see from outside the States?
I suspect it is one of those copyright issues - they do not have distribution rights outside of certain areas... Worth reading if you decide to jump through some hoops to get it :)
Maybe try the US publisher site: https://twodollarradio.com/products/born-into-this ? Not sure what you will see from outside the States?
I suspect it is one of those copyright issues - they do not have distribution rights outside of certain areas... Worth reading if you decide to jump through some hoops to get it :)
123FlorenceArt
>122 AnnieMod: I finally found it through a web search, on the Australian Kobo store,
and it turns out it’s available with my Kobo Plus subscription, even though I couldn’t find it on the French store. Kobo can be so frustrating sometimes. But well, I have it now though I’m not sure when I will get to it.
and it turns out it’s available with my Kobo Plus subscription, even though I couldn’t find it on the French store. Kobo can be so frustrating sometimes. But well, I have it now though I’m not sure when I will get to it.
125FlorenceArt
A quick, quirky and fun story from Reactor Mag (formerly tor.com):
The Three O'Clock Dragon by John Wiswell.
The Three O'Clock Dragon by John Wiswell.
126rv1988
Apparently May was National Short Story month in the US (who knew) so the website LitHub has recommended a whole bunch of short stories that are available online to read for free. https://lithub.com/tag/one-great-short-story/
127Julie_in_the_Library
>126 rv1988: Thanks for sharing! And yeah, they need to publicize that more. April being National Poetry Month is fairly well known, I think, but I didn't even know we had a national short story month, let alone which month it is.
128avaland
Now reading Kaleidoscope by Meenakshi Kumar. Short stories set in
India and themes (so far) which elucidate Indian culture .
Also dipping into Paul Yoon's stories in Run me to Earth. Yoon has been a favorite author....
India and themes (so far) which elucidate Indian culture .
Also dipping into Paul Yoon's stories in Run me to Earth. Yoon has been a favorite author....
129cindydavid4
new yorker has a short by Lore Segal beyond imagining (Touchstone wrong ) about a group of elderly woman who have lunched together for 50 years. about aging. really loved it. I recognized the name of the author, and looking at her work Im sure Ive read her before. she was born in 1928, still alive. Not sure if this is an old piece or something recently written, but I think I want to read some m ore by her
ETA oh duh just saw this Ladies' Lunch and other stories that I know I read and loved. Speaking of getting older....... Ill like to read more by her
ETA oh duh just saw this Ladies' Lunch and other stories that I know I read and loved. Speaking of getting older....... Ill like to read more by her
130FlorenceArt
I finished the tor.com Summer 2023 Short Fiction bundle.
The link above will take you to the Reactor Mag (Tor.com’s new name) page with links to each of the stories.
“The Star-Bear” by Michael Swanwick
“After the Animal Flesh Beings” by Brian Evenson
“Ceffo” by Jonathan Carroll
“Detonation Boulevard” by Alastair Reynolds
“What It Means To Be A Car” James Patrick Kelly
“Headhunting” by Rich Larson
“The Three O’Clock Dragon” by John Wiswell
“The Job at the End of the World” by Ray Nayler
I’m afraid that I don’t have much to say about those, I’d say none of them was bad, but they didn’t leave a lasting impression.
The link above will take you to the Reactor Mag (Tor.com’s new name) page with links to each of the stories.
“The Star-Bear” by Michael Swanwick
“After the Animal Flesh Beings” by Brian Evenson
“Ceffo” by Jonathan Carroll
“Detonation Boulevard” by Alastair Reynolds
“What It Means To Be A Car” James Patrick Kelly
“Headhunting” by Rich Larson
“The Three O’Clock Dragon” by John Wiswell
“The Job at the End of the World” by Ray Nayler
I’m afraid that I don’t have much to say about those, I’d say none of them was bad, but they didn’t leave a lasting impression.
131FlorenceArt
And while I was on the Reactor web site, I checked out the latest Judge Dee story. I quite like these.
Judge Dee and the Executioner of Epinal
Judge Dee and the Executioner of Epinal
132FlorenceArt
Tous nos corps
Géorgui Gospodinov
Translated from Bulgarian to French by Marie Vrinat (no English translation?)
I downloaded this collection of very short stories (free with my kobo plus subscription) because I read several reviews of Time Shelter by the same author, but I was reluctant to commit to buying the book. I like the format of very short stories (between one and three pages), and I liked this book, but maybe not as much as I wanted to. Some of the stories were funny, although the humor didn’t always work for me. Some were poetic, and some left me indifferent. I bookmarked 8 out of 104, so not a huge success for me, but nice enough for short breaks while reading other books.
Géorgui Gospodinov
Translated from Bulgarian to French by Marie Vrinat (no English translation?)
I downloaded this collection of very short stories (free with my kobo plus subscription) because I read several reviews of Time Shelter by the same author, but I was reluctant to commit to buying the book. I like the format of very short stories (between one and three pages), and I liked this book, but maybe not as much as I wanted to. Some of the stories were funny, although the humor didn’t always work for me. Some were poetic, and some left me indifferent. I bookmarked 8 out of 104, so not a huge success for me, but nice enough for short breaks while reading other books.
133FlorenceArt
Here's a fun one (audio and written text):
Yo, Rapunzel!
Yo, Rapunzel!
134nrmay
>133 FlorenceArt:
Thanks for the link. Liked that one!
Thanks for the link. Liked that one!
135chlorine
>130 FlorenceArt: I usually quite like stories by Evenson and Swanwick. Too bad these ones didn't deliver for you
>131 FlorenceArt: I quite like the Judge Dee stories as well! I've only read four of them so far so I still have three that I keep for rainy days. :)
>131 FlorenceArt: I quite like the Judge Dee stories as well! I've only read four of them so far so I still have three that I keep for rainy days. :)
136avaland
Browsing through stories in various short fiction volumes ...some newer, some not...
We Live in water:Stories by Jess Walters
The Hive and the Honey by Paul Yoon
The Granta Book of the African Short Story ed. Helon Habila
Normal Rules Don't Apply, Short Stories by Kate Atkinson
When Things Get Dark: Stories Inspired by Shirley Jackson, ed Ellen Datlow
Butter Novellas, Stories, and Fragments by Gayl Jones
We Live in water:Stories by Jess Walters
The Hive and the Honey by Paul Yoon
The Granta Book of the African Short Story ed. Helon Habila
Normal Rules Don't Apply, Short Stories by Kate Atkinson
When Things Get Dark: Stories Inspired by Shirley Jackson, ed Ellen Datlow
Butter Novellas, Stories, and Fragments by Gayl Jones
137FlorenceArt
>136 avaland: Anything interesting in there? I have The Granta Book of African Short Stories but haven’t read from it yet. I’m not reading much from the collections I own right now.
138FlorenceArt
The Tale of the Mother and the Hexed VCR
By Nika Murphy
Luna Station Quarterly (June 2023; issue 54)
Unfortunately this no longer seems to be available online. It was on my Pocket feed at the recommendation of Alex Brown in Must Read Short Speculative Fiction: June 2023.
This story was not at all what I expected. It was very unsettling in its depiction of the difficulties of motherhood. I can't really say I enjoyed it, but still it felt worth reading.
ETA: just found out that the magazine is available on Kobo Plus, so I downloaded it so it can join my other not-really-reading collections. It’s also available on Kindle but maybe not on the Kindle equivalent of Kobo Plus.
By Nika Murphy
Luna Station Quarterly (June 2023; issue 54)
Unfortunately this no longer seems to be available online. It was on my Pocket feed at the recommendation of Alex Brown in Must Read Short Speculative Fiction: June 2023.
This story was not at all what I expected. It was very unsettling in its depiction of the difficulties of motherhood. I can't really say I enjoyed it, but still it felt worth reading.
ETA: just found out that the magazine is available on Kobo Plus, so I downloaded it so it can join my other not-really-reading collections. It’s also available on Kindle but maybe not on the Kindle equivalent of Kobo Plus.
139FlorenceArt
The Ultimate Safari
Nadine Gordimer
In 10 Years of the Caine Prize for African Writing
A story of refugees. I didn’t care much for the writing, the voice of the narrator (a little girl) felt fake. The story itself was moving and, sadly, very much relevant today.
Nadine Gordimer
In 10 Years of the Caine Prize for African Writing
A story of refugees. I didn’t care much for the writing, the voice of the narrator (a little girl) felt fake. The story itself was moving and, sadly, very much relevant today.
140chlorine
I was really impressed by Without lungs or Limbs to Stay by Shauna O'Meara, featured in the anthology The Best science fiction of the year Volume 7 edited by Neil Clarke.
It's about a colony ship gone awry and beautifully written.
It's about a colony ship gone awry and beautifully written.
141labfs39
>139 FlorenceArt: I read that collection last year. My favorite stories were The Museum and "Love Poems".
142FlorenceArt
>141 labfs39: I must have bought it after reading your review.
143janoorani24
I've been attempting to read from some of the short story and anthology collections I have. Some are collections by a single author, some are anthologies with a single theme, such as crime stories, some are writings from general anthologies such as World Masterpieces Since the Renaissance, etc. I set aside Fridays for reading shorter works, but don't always manage to find the time to finish on the day I start. Here is the first short story I read this year (January 24th):
Jokester by Isaac Asimov
Short Story, 14 pages
Original Language: English
Original Publication: 1956 (unknown for this edition)
Series: Multivac Stories
Genre: Science Fiction
Format: Facsimile - read on Kindle - saved to Kindle from Internet Archive -- it had been sitting around on my Kindle for years.
Publisher: Infinity Science Fiction Magazine
Reading dates: 1/22/24 - 1/24/2024
Rating: 2.5 stars
Interesting concept, it could even be considered an early version of an artificial intelligence story. It's about a future Earth where a giant, world-encompassing computer, called Multivac, solves problems, "early in the history of Multivac, it had become apparent that there was one big bottleneck: the questioning procedure. Multivac could answer the problems of humanity, all the problems, if -- if it were asked meaningful questions. But as knowledge accumulated at an ever-faster rate, it became ever more difficult to locate those meaningful questions." So the world came up with the concept of Grand Masters, like chess Grand Masters, they possess a "rare type of intuition," and there are only twelve in the world.
The ending is creepy, and unusual for Asimov since it involves alien intelligence, and most of his stories don't since he didn't believe in the possibility of other intelligent life-forms in the galaxy.
Jokester by Isaac Asimov
Short Story, 14 pages
Original Language: English
Original Publication: 1956 (unknown for this edition)
Series: Multivac Stories
Genre: Science Fiction
Format: Facsimile - read on Kindle - saved to Kindle from Internet Archive -- it had been sitting around on my Kindle for years.
Publisher: Infinity Science Fiction Magazine
Reading dates: 1/22/24 - 1/24/2024
Rating: 2.5 stars
Interesting concept, it could even be considered an early version of an artificial intelligence story. It's about a future Earth where a giant, world-encompassing computer, called Multivac, solves problems, "early in the history of Multivac, it had become apparent that there was one big bottleneck: the questioning procedure. Multivac could answer the problems of humanity, all the problems, if -- if it were asked meaningful questions. But as knowledge accumulated at an ever-faster rate, it became ever more difficult to locate those meaningful questions." So the world came up with the concept of Grand Masters, like chess Grand Masters, they possess a "rare type of intuition," and there are only twelve in the world.
The ending is creepy, and unusual for Asimov since it involves alien intelligence, and most of his stories don't since he didn't believe in the possibility of other intelligent life-forms in the galaxy.
144chlorine
>143 janoorani24: This sounds interesting, and also familiar.
I see that it was published in an Asimov collection published in French, and I probably read that back in high school when I was reading all the science-fiction I could find. :)
I see that it was published in an Asimov collection published in French, and I probably read that back in high school when I was reading all the science-fiction I could find. :)
145chlorine
I found the story Lena, by author qntm, really striking:
https://qntm.org/mmacevedo
It's about the future usage of scanned brain images. I found it really original (though not quite believable). It's quite short so don't hesitate to give it a go!
https://qntm.org/mmacevedo
It's about the future usage of scanned brain images. I found it really original (though not quite believable). It's quite short so don't hesitate to give it a go!
146FlorenceArt
>145 chlorine: Very interesting indeed!
147FlorenceArt
We Will Teach You How to Read | We Will Teach You How to Read
Recommended by Alex Brown on Reactor Mag. I'm sure there is deep meaning in there, but it passed me by entirely. Maybe I should have read it in one go, it's not that long. But I interrupted my reading for no good reason, and when I took it up again I couldn't bring myself to be interested and skimmed rather than read to the end.
Recommended by Alex Brown on Reactor Mag. I'm sure there is deep meaning in there, but it passed me by entirely. Maybe I should have read it in one go, it's not that long. But I interrupted my reading for no good reason, and when I took it up again I couldn't bring myself to be interested and skimmed rather than read to the end.
148chlorine
AITA for Using My Side Hustle to Help My Boyfriend Escape the Clutches of Death? by Aimee Picchi, available here
For once I read flash fiction and liked it. :)
For those who are not aware of AITA, it is a subreddit forum whose acronym stands for Am I the A**hole where people ask for opinion on situations in which they felt they acted right but were told they were jerks and are now wondering. You can find it here if interested.
I admit to being sometimes fascinated by the situations described.
For once I read flash fiction and liked it. :)
For those who are not aware of AITA, it is a subreddit forum whose acronym stands for Am I the A**hole where people ask for opinion on situations in which they felt they acted right but were told they were jerks and are now wondering. You can find it here if interested.
I admit to being sometimes fascinated by the situations described.
149FlorenceArt
>148 chlorine: Excellent!
And this reminds me of this article I had on my Pocket feed and have now read 😉
Philosophers are studying Reddit's "Am I the Asshole?"
And this reminds me of this article I had on my Pocket feed and have now read 😉
Philosophers are studying Reddit's "Am I the Asshole?"
150FlorenceArt
The Magician and Laplace’s Demon
Tom Crosshill
In The Long List Anthology
Not sure what to think about this. It felt full of clichés about AI and quantum physics, but, thinking back, the treatment was different. More subtle. And the end is… deliciously ambiguous. So I like it more in retrospect than I did while reading.
Tom Crosshill
In The Long List Anthology
Not sure what to think about this. It felt full of clichés about AI and quantum physics, but, thinking back, the treatment was different. More subtle. And the end is… deliciously ambiguous. So I like it more in retrospect than I did while reading.
151chlorine
>149 FlorenceArt: That article was so interesting!
Glad you liked the story. Aimee Picchi is an author I want to follow. I've loved her Notes to version of myself, Hidden in Symphonie Fantastique Scores Throughout the Multiverse that was published in Apex Magazine, then proceeded to read For Sale: One Unicorn Saddle, Mostly Disenchanted (which is available online and is quite short) which was not breathtaking but very cute and heartwarming and cleverly constructed.
I intend to keep reading the stories of hers that are easily available.
Glad you liked the story. Aimee Picchi is an author I want to follow. I've loved her Notes to version of myself, Hidden in Symphonie Fantastique Scores Throughout the Multiverse that was published in Apex Magazine, then proceeded to read For Sale: One Unicorn Saddle, Mostly Disenchanted (which is available online and is quite short) which was not breathtaking but very cute and heartwarming and cleverly constructed.
I intend to keep reading the stories of hers that are easily available.
152cindydavid4
oh my, I am reading table for two which is a collection of shorts. Without any spoilers I must direct you all to the story once you get to the book the ballad of timothy toulett Ill just say that it is pure genius. enjoy
ETA warning about reviews if you decide to check them out spoilers everywhere!
ETA warning about reviews if you decide to check them out spoilers everywhere!
153cindydavid4
review of Lore Segals the journal I did not keep is here https://www.librarything.com/topic/361718#n8571790
154rv1988
"Aishwarya Rai" by Sanjana Thakur
winner of the 2024 Commonwealth Short Story Prize
https://granta.com/aishwarya-rai/
winner of the 2024 Commonwealth Short Story Prize
https://granta.com/aishwarya-rai/
155FlorenceArt
Spring Festival: Happiness, Anger, Love, Sorrow, Joy by Xia Jia
In Clarkesworld Magazine Issue 96
From The Long List Anthology
A few short slices of ordinary lives set in a strange future where technology has even more power on people than it does today. I thought the writing felt a bit naive, or is it the translation? Or maybe it's because Chinese writing is so different from ours. It doesn't seem to follow the same rules. The author's note at the end clarifies what she was trying to do with this: show that whatever the technology is, people keep living "lives as meaningful as they're ordinary". This made me appreciate the story more.
In Clarkesworld Magazine Issue 96
From The Long List Anthology
A few short slices of ordinary lives set in a strange future where technology has even more power on people than it does today. I thought the writing felt a bit naive, or is it the translation? Or maybe it's because Chinese writing is so different from ours. It doesn't seem to follow the same rules. The author's note at the end clarifies what she was trying to do with this: show that whatever the technology is, people keep living "lives as meaningful as they're ordinary". This made me appreciate the story more.
156cindydavid4
Finished table for two and liked it well enough. the novella wasnt as good but I can recommend the rest
157FlorenceArt
>154 rv1988: Well. Not sure what to say. It's a bumpy read, but very worthwhile.
158FlorenceArt
>156 cindydavid4: Are you sure you have the right touchstone here? Shouldn’t it be Table for Two by Amos Towles?
159chlorine
I read The Semplica-Girl diaries by George Saunders. It's available at the New-York Times. I had wanted to read George Saunders for a long time and liked this one a lot. At 25 pages it may be a bit long for some people's tastes.
>154 rv1988: I have downloaded that, thanks.
BTW some speculative fiction authors including Isabel. J. Kim and Arula Ratnakar started a project of sending a monthly newsletters with recommendations for short-fiction, among other things. The Saunders story was recommended in the first issue.
I like the fact that they recommend stories that are not all recent and not all published in traditional speculative fiction magazines.
If you're interested you can register here:
https://thewyrmhole.beehiiv.com/subscribe?utm_source=thewyrmhole.beehiiv.com&...
>154 rv1988: I have downloaded that, thanks.
BTW some speculative fiction authors including Isabel. J. Kim and Arula Ratnakar started a project of sending a monthly newsletters with recommendations for short-fiction, among other things. The Saunders story was recommended in the first issue.
I like the fact that they recommend stories that are not all recent and not all published in traditional speculative fiction magazines.
If you're interested you can register here:
https://thewyrmhole.beehiiv.com/subscribe?utm_source=thewyrmhole.beehiiv.com&...
160cindydavid4
>158 FlorenceArt: whoops my bad; fixed, thanks
161FlorenceArt
The Husband Stitch by Carmen Maria Machado
In Granta magazine
From The Long List Anthology
Very strange. I think I like it.
In Granta magazine
From The Long List Anthology
Very strange. I think I like it.
162chlorine
I read Rabbit Test by Samantha Mills (link is to the story which is available online) and I think it may appeal to people here.
This is about women's right and in particular abortion, and the story manages several things at once: outline the history of pregnancy test and abortion, make us care about several characters while barely outlining them, showing why the fight for those rights is important.
This story really packs a punch.
This is about women's right and in particular abortion, and the story manages several things at once: outline the history of pregnancy test and abortion, make us care about several characters while barely outlining them, showing why the fight for those rights is important.
This story really packs a punch.
163rv1988
>159 chlorine: What a great resource - thanks for this. I have subscribed.
164chlorine
>163 rv1988: Great, I'm glad it's interesting for at least one person! I downloaded the second story recommended by the person who recommended the Saunders one, I'll see if I like it as well. :)
165FlorenceArt
Why Don't We Just Kill the Kid In the Omelas Hole by Isabel J. Kim in Clarkesworld Magazine
This was mentioned by >41 Julie_in_the_Library: and I intended to read it, but it took another random link for me to finally get there. It's excellent. Thoughtful and sarcastic, it asks hard questions and nobody is spared, especially not us, the readers.
This was mentioned by >41 Julie_in_the_Library: and I intended to read it, but it took another random link for me to finally get there. It's excellent. Thoughtful and sarcastic, it asks hard questions and nobody is spared, especially not us, the readers.
166cindydavid4
NKJemison has a similar story in her collection how long 'til black future monthits not as sarcastic, but it does show another way it could be interpreted. but the above story is so on target that I dont see how another can compete
167chlorine
>165 FlorenceArt: I hear about this story everywhere. I also hear a lot of good things about Isabel J. Kim (though I've read 4 stories of her and there was only one I loved, Zeta-Epsilon). I'll have to read the Omelas one but I'd like to read the Le Guin story again first.
168rv1988
The Caine Prize for African Fiction is dedicated to short fiction from African writers. Here are the 5 shortlisted entries for 2024:
1) Tryphena Yeboah (Ghana) for ‘The Dishwashing Women’, Narrative Magazine (Fall 2022) https://www.narrativemagazine.com/issues/fall-2022/spring-contest-winners/dishwa... (no paywall but free account required)
2) Nadia Davids (South Africa) for ‘Bridling’, The Georgia Review (2023) https://thegeorgiareview.com/posts/bridling/
3) Samuel Kolawole (Nigeria) for ‘Adjustment of Status’, New England Review, Vol. 44, #3 (Summer 2023) https://www.nereview.com/samuel-kolawole/ (paywalled)
4) Uche Okonkwo (Nigeria) for ‘Animals’, ZYZZYVA (2024) https://www.zyzzyva.org/2024/01/08/animals-by-uche-okonkwo/
5) Pemi Aguda (Nigeria) for ‘Breastmilk’, One Story, Issue #227 (2021) https://one-story.com/product/breastmilk/ (paywalled)
Edit: Link to prize page https://www.caineprize.com/
1) Tryphena Yeboah (Ghana) for ‘The Dishwashing Women’, Narrative Magazine (Fall 2022) https://www.narrativemagazine.com/issues/fall-2022/spring-contest-winners/dishwa... (no paywall but free account required)
2) Nadia Davids (South Africa) for ‘Bridling’, The Georgia Review (2023) https://thegeorgiareview.com/posts/bridling/
3) Samuel Kolawole (Nigeria) for ‘Adjustment of Status’, New England Review, Vol. 44, #3 (Summer 2023) https://www.nereview.com/samuel-kolawole/ (paywalled)
4) Uche Okonkwo (Nigeria) for ‘Animals’, ZYZZYVA (2024) https://www.zyzzyva.org/2024/01/08/animals-by-uche-okonkwo/
5) Pemi Aguda (Nigeria) for ‘Breastmilk’, One Story, Issue #227 (2021) https://one-story.com/product/breastmilk/ (paywalled)
Edit: Link to prize page https://www.caineprize.com/
169FlorenceArt
>168 rv1988: Thank you! Will try to check out the links.
170FlorenceArt
The Bonedrake's Penance by Yoon Ha Lee
Published 2014 in Beneath Ceaseless Skies, issue #143
From The Long List Anthology
This story doesn’t look like much at first sight, but it grew on me. A moving story, told in a sober style, that hints at a whole universe of untold histories. This is what short stories are about, for me.
Published 2014 in Beneath Ceaseless Skies, issue #143
From The Long List Anthology
This story doesn’t look like much at first sight, but it grew on me. A moving story, told in a sober style, that hints at a whole universe of untold histories. This is what short stories are about, for me.
171rv1988
>170 FlorenceArt: Thanks! One of Yoon Ha Lee's books is on my reading list: I will start with this story instead.
172kjuliff
A Cage Went in Search of a Bird - 10 writers pay homage to Kafka in these entertaining short stories.
173FlorenceArt
The Dishwashing Women by Tryphena L. Yeboah in Narrative Magazine (free account required)
Shortlisted for the Caine Prize for African Fiction and mentioned above >168 rv1988:. The story is good but I didn't care much for the writing. Too wordy and didactic.
One Ear Left Over by Jonathan Olfert in Beneath Ceaseless Skies
A more or less random find while browsing old recommendations. Not bad.
Shortlisted for the Caine Prize for African Fiction and mentioned above >168 rv1988:. The story is good but I didn't care much for the writing. Too wordy and didactic.
One Ear Left Over by Jonathan Olfert in Beneath Ceaseless Skies
A more or less random find while browsing old recommendations. Not bad.
174rv1988
>168 rv1988: Update: Nadia Davids' story, 'Bridling’ won the Caine Prize for short stories from Africa. She's South African. https://thegeorgiareview.com/posts/bridling/
175labfs39
>168 rv1988: >174 rv1988: Thanks for the updates. I read Ten Years of the Caine Prize for African Writing anthology last year, and there were some interesting stories in it. It's one prize I hope to follow regularly.
176cindydavid4
Finished october country group read with short stories just right for fall. Interesting reads and conversation. I think my fav was "the emissary" and scariest for me was "next in line" but not so much scared as troubled. Love Bradbury
177cindydavid4
>175 labfs39: Just order this, looking forward to it
178labfs39
I picked up a couple of free short e-stories from Amazon yesterday. Surprisingly I read them both the same day.

The Answer is No by Fredrik Backman
To be published Dec. 2024, 68 pages
I love Backman and his humor, so it's no surprise that this was a fun read. I think it would have been better either shorter or longer. My review is here.

The Best Girls by Min Jin Lee
Published 2019, 20 p.
Set in 1989 Seoul, this one is narrated by a young girl who is accepting of the stifling patriarchy both at home and school.
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The Answer is No by Fredrik Backman
To be published Dec. 2024, 68 pages
I love Backman and his humor, so it's no surprise that this was a fun read. I think it would have been better either shorter or longer. My review is here.

The Best Girls by Min Jin Lee
Published 2019, 20 p.
Set in 1989 Seoul, this one is narrated by a young girl who is accepting of the stifling patriarchy both at home and school.
Edited to try and fix image
179labfs39
I've decided to try and restart my plan to read a short story every evening. The Best American Short Stories 2009, edited by Alice Sebold, was on the rebeccanyc tribute thread, so I'm starting there.
The Idiot President by Daniel Alarcón (born in Peru, now living in US)
Published 2008 in The New Yorker, 14 p.
A young man joins two other thespians on a winter tour of mountain villages, performing a play called "The Idiot President". They are part of Diciembre, a theater group formed during the war years, and notorious for performing in the conflict zone and for their refusal to curb their political views. The three men bond as they perform this one play over and over, in bitter cold, in various mountain hamlets.
This short story depicts a slice of life and not much happens. The political undertones are more interesting, although I am sure I missed much of the innuendo, not knowing Peruvian history.
Yurt by Sarah Shun-Lien Bynum
Published in 2008 in The New Yorker, 17 p.
Some years ago, I had read a collection of connected stories by Bynum called Ms. Hempel Chronicles, and "Yurt" is one of the stories. Ms. Hempel is a middle school teacher and friend to Anna Duffy, who abruptly takes a sabbatical and goes to Yemen. Now she's back and very pregnant. As Ms. Hempel and the other teachers flit about her, too discrete to ask who the father is, Ms. Hempel thinks back to other school assignations, including one of her own.
Another slice of life drama, this one with a quiet humor. I think teachers will appreciate the little details that ring true: the beginning of year hopefulness, the slow slide into chaos as piles begin to slide on your desk, the bickering over bulletin boards.
Rubiaux Rising by Steve de Jarnatt
Published 2008 in The Santa Monica Review, 9 p.
In a last ditch attempt to detox, Rubiaux has been locked in a attic in New Orleans. Food and water is passed up through a small hole in the floor, and he keeps it in a cooler. But it's been some time since his aunt left on an errand, and Rubiaux is getting hungry. Then the storm hits and the water begins to rise.
This is the first story in the collection where the action could be called page-turning. I was afraid it was going to slip into horror, but it didn't. Being a film director (Miracle Mile) and screenwriter (X-Files and Alfred Hitchcock Presents), this makes sense. My one quibble is that Jarnatt tried to write with a New Orleans accent, but it didn't seem authentic, and the first couple of pages felt off as a result.
The Idiot President by Daniel Alarcón (born in Peru, now living in US)
Published 2008 in The New Yorker, 14 p.
A young man joins two other thespians on a winter tour of mountain villages, performing a play called "The Idiot President". They are part of Diciembre, a theater group formed during the war years, and notorious for performing in the conflict zone and for their refusal to curb their political views. The three men bond as they perform this one play over and over, in bitter cold, in various mountain hamlets.
This short story depicts a slice of life and not much happens. The political undertones are more interesting, although I am sure I missed much of the innuendo, not knowing Peruvian history.
Yurt by Sarah Shun-Lien Bynum
Published in 2008 in The New Yorker, 17 p.
Some years ago, I had read a collection of connected stories by Bynum called Ms. Hempel Chronicles, and "Yurt" is one of the stories. Ms. Hempel is a middle school teacher and friend to Anna Duffy, who abruptly takes a sabbatical and goes to Yemen. Now she's back and very pregnant. As Ms. Hempel and the other teachers flit about her, too discrete to ask who the father is, Ms. Hempel thinks back to other school assignations, including one of her own.
Another slice of life drama, this one with a quiet humor. I think teachers will appreciate the little details that ring true: the beginning of year hopefulness, the slow slide into chaos as piles begin to slide on your desk, the bickering over bulletin boards.
Rubiaux Rising by Steve de Jarnatt
Published 2008 in The Santa Monica Review, 9 p.
In a last ditch attempt to detox, Rubiaux has been locked in a attic in New Orleans. Food and water is passed up through a small hole in the floor, and he keeps it in a cooler. But it's been some time since his aunt left on an errand, and Rubiaux is getting hungry. Then the storm hits and the water begins to rise.
This is the first story in the collection where the action could be called page-turning. I was afraid it was going to slip into horror, but it didn't. Being a film director (Miracle Mile) and screenwriter (X-Files and Alfred Hitchcock Presents), this makes sense. My one quibble is that Jarnatt tried to write with a New Orleans accent, but it didn't seem authentic, and the first couple of pages felt off as a result.
180labfs39
Beyond the Pale by Joseph Epstein
Published 2008 in Commentary, 19 p.
Arnold Berman was taught Yiddish by his grandfather, who lived with them for four years after the second world war. Although he went on to study English at Yale and work for Time, he retained his love for the evocative language and for one author in particular, Zalman Belzner. When he has the opportunity to hear Mr. Belzner speak, he leaps at the opportunity. Belzner's wife, Gerda, latches on to Arnold as someone who can help translate and promote her husband's work, and the story is primarily about their relationship, even after Zalman has passed.
This story resonated with me because of it's quiet, warm tone, and because I like stories about translation and Yiddish in particular. Pleasant reading.
A Shadow Table by Alice Fulton
Published 2008 in Tin House, 15 p.
This story was taken from the author's first published work, The Nightingale of Troy, a collection of linked stories telling the history of a family over 100 years. A Shadow Table tells the story of Charlotte and her thwarted romance with a man of a different religion and class background (she's middle class and Catholic, he's wealthy and Protestant) in the 1920s. Charlotte struggles with an eating disorder, but brings an elaborate dessert when she and Ray head to Connecticut to meet his mother. Mrs. Northrup is infatuated with Japan, and gives Charlotte a book she expects her to read: Honorable Daughter, the memoir of the daughter of a samurai. Charlotte seems to have more in common with this subservient daughter, than she does with the people around her.
NowTrends by Karl Taro Greenfeld
Published 2008 in American Short Fiction, 18 p.
A Chinese journalist is sent by the publisher to interview a starlet for their magazine. While away, he learns that a fellow writer is in nearby Chengdu. Not having seen him for three years, he goes to visit him. When he gets there, he learns that his friend has been arrested. Worried whether this is a temporary, "as usual" sort of thing, or is a political arrest, he goes to see him. After bribing the officer in charge, they meet.
Karl Greenfeld is a journalist, as well as short story writer, and in 2006 was going back and forth between NYC and Beijing working on the launch of Sports Illustrated China. His experience working in Chinese publishing, with it's red envelopes of money exchanging hands, clearly influenced this story.
Published 2008 in Commentary, 19 p.
Arnold Berman was taught Yiddish by his grandfather, who lived with them for four years after the second world war. Although he went on to study English at Yale and work for Time, he retained his love for the evocative language and for one author in particular, Zalman Belzner. When he has the opportunity to hear Mr. Belzner speak, he leaps at the opportunity. Belzner's wife, Gerda, latches on to Arnold as someone who can help translate and promote her husband's work, and the story is primarily about their relationship, even after Zalman has passed.
This story resonated with me because of it's quiet, warm tone, and because I like stories about translation and Yiddish in particular. Pleasant reading.
A Shadow Table by Alice Fulton
Published 2008 in Tin House, 15 p.
This story was taken from the author's first published work, The Nightingale of Troy, a collection of linked stories telling the history of a family over 100 years. A Shadow Table tells the story of Charlotte and her thwarted romance with a man of a different religion and class background (she's middle class and Catholic, he's wealthy and Protestant) in the 1920s. Charlotte struggles with an eating disorder, but brings an elaborate dessert when she and Ray head to Connecticut to meet his mother. Mrs. Northrup is infatuated with Japan, and gives Charlotte a book she expects her to read: Honorable Daughter, the memoir of the daughter of a samurai. Charlotte seems to have more in common with this subservient daughter, than she does with the people around her.
NowTrends by Karl Taro Greenfeld
Published 2008 in American Short Fiction, 18 p.
A Chinese journalist is sent by the publisher to interview a starlet for their magazine. While away, he learns that a fellow writer is in nearby Chengdu. Not having seen him for three years, he goes to visit him. When he gets there, he learns that his friend has been arrested. Worried whether this is a temporary, "as usual" sort of thing, or is a political arrest, he goes to see him. After bribing the officer in charge, they meet.
Karl Greenfeld is a journalist, as well as short story writer, and in 2006 was going back and forth between NYC and Beijing working on the launch of Sports Illustrated China. His experience working in Chinese publishing, with it's red envelopes of money exchanging hands, clearly influenced this story.
181rv1988
>180 labfs39: These are great, thank you for sharing. I think your project of reading a short story every evening is wonderful!
182cindydavid4
>180 labfs39: I like the title of that book "beyond the pale" having double meaning. sounds like a good book to read
183kjuliff
>180 labfs39: Beyond the Pale - a book I’ve wanted to read for sometime and one of many that I never can. Beyond depressed tonight.
184labfs39
>181 rv1988: Thanks. I'm not hitting my goal of every night, but it's a lot more than I was doing, so that's progress!
>182 cindydavid4: >183 kjuliff: It's only a short story, not an entire book, but it was an interesting take on women who spend all their energy promoting their husband's work.
>182 cindydavid4: >183 kjuliff: It's only a short story, not an entire book, but it was an interesting take on women who spend all their energy promoting their husband's work.
185kjuliff
>184 labfs39: I realised I was a short story but that’s what I am into now. It’s all I seem able to cope with. The newer books seem to involve time shifts across generations. And now as is understandable and inevitable use email and text messages in conversations, which is hard to represent in audio.
Next step down will be news articles which the better papers give audio as an option.
Next step down will be news articles which the better papers give audio as an option.
186labfs39
The Farms by Eleanor Henderson
Published 2008 in Agni, 13 p.
Thirteen-year-old Meg lives in an apartment complex in Florida, a definite step down from their former home. But after her younger brother died of AIDS, the medical bills necessitated a change. Across the way from her apartment live two younger Black sisters. One day during a rainstorm, the two girls lock themselves out of their apartment. Meg decides to invite them over to get dry and wait out the storm, while both sets of parents are at work. An interesting short story about racism and the stigma of AIDS.
Sagittarius by Greg Hrbek
Published 2008 in Black Warrior Review, 12 p.
An infant escapes his playpen and runs into the woods on all four legs. He is a centaur, but doctors keep telling his human parents that he is deformed and needs surgery. As his parents search the woods for him, they each reflect on how they have handled his birth and their feelings about him. Meanwhile his three-year-old brother gets tired of waiting for everyone to return.
A very unusual, but interesting story about new parents and their fears and hopes for their children.
Published 2008 in Agni, 13 p.
Thirteen-year-old Meg lives in an apartment complex in Florida, a definite step down from their former home. But after her younger brother died of AIDS, the medical bills necessitated a change. Across the way from her apartment live two younger Black sisters. One day during a rainstorm, the two girls lock themselves out of their apartment. Meg decides to invite them over to get dry and wait out the storm, while both sets of parents are at work. An interesting short story about racism and the stigma of AIDS.
Sagittarius by Greg Hrbek
Published 2008 in Black Warrior Review, 12 p.
An infant escapes his playpen and runs into the woods on all four legs. He is a centaur, but doctors keep telling his human parents that he is deformed and needs surgery. As his parents search the woods for him, they each reflect on how they have handled his birth and their feelings about him. Meanwhile his three-year-old brother gets tired of waiting for everyone to return.
A very unusual, but interesting story about new parents and their fears and hopes for their children.
187labfs39
The Farms by Eleanor Henderson
Published 2008 in Agni, 13 p.
Thirteen-year-old Meg lives in an apartment complex in Florida, a definite step down from their former home. But after her younger brother died of AIDS, the medical bills necessitated a change. Across the way from her apartment live two younger Black sisters. One day during a rainstorm, the two girls lock themselves out of their apartment. Meg decides to invite them over to get dry and wait out the storm, while both sets of parents are at work. An interesting short story about racism and the stigma of AIDS.
Sagittarius by Greg Hrbek
Published 2008 in Black Warrior Review, 12 p.
An infant escapes his playpen and runs into the woods on all four legs. He is a centaur, but doctors keep telling his human parents that he is deformed and needs surgery. As his parents search the woods for him, they each reflect on how they have handled his birth and their feelings about him. Meanwhile his three-year-old brother gets tired of waiting for everyone to return.
A very unusual, but interesting story about new parents and their fears and hopes for their children.
Published 2008 in Agni, 13 p.
Thirteen-year-old Meg lives in an apartment complex in Florida, a definite step down from their former home. But after her younger brother died of AIDS, the medical bills necessitated a change. Across the way from her apartment live two younger Black sisters. One day during a rainstorm, the two girls lock themselves out of their apartment. Meg decides to invite them over to get dry and wait out the storm, while both sets of parents are at work. An interesting short story about racism and the stigma of AIDS.
Sagittarius by Greg Hrbek
Published 2008 in Black Warrior Review, 12 p.
An infant escapes his playpen and runs into the woods on all four legs. He is a centaur, but doctors keep telling his human parents that he is deformed and needs surgery. As his parents search the woods for him, they each reflect on how they have handled his birth and their feelings about him. Meanwhile his three-year-old brother gets tired of waiting for everyone to return.
A very unusual, but interesting story about new parents and their fears and hopes for their children.
188FlorenceArt
The Devil in America by Kai Ashante Wilson
In The Long List Anthology
Not an easy read, it took me a while to finish it little by little, but to my surprise I did finish it. I’s sad and disturbing and I did not quite hate it.
In The Long List Anthology
Not an easy read, it took me a while to finish it little by little, but to my surprise I did finish it. I’s sad and disturbing and I did not quite hate it.
189FlorenceArt
If You Take My Meaning
By Charlie Jane Anders
In Some of the best of Tor.com 2020
Nice. Hopeful tale of trying to heal interspecies relations.
By Charlie Jane Anders
In Some of the best of Tor.com 2020
Nice. Hopeful tale of trying to heal interspecies relations.