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1margd
Edited: Feb 15, 4:51 am

Red States Have Higher Gun Death Rates Than Blue States. Here’s Why
Arianna Johnson | 18 April 2023

A new study published in Journal of the American Medical Association’s Surgery found that firearm deaths are more likely in small rural towns than in major urban cities, adding to research that contradicts common belief that Democratic blue areas have higher incidences of gun-related deaths than do Republican red districts...

...States With The Highest Gun Death Rates
According to data from the CDC, these are the states with the highest firearm mortality rates per 100,000 in 2021:

🔴Mississippi had a firearm mortality rate of 33.9, making it the state with the highest rate in 2021. The state also used its electoral votes to vote for then President Trump in the 2020 election.
🔴Louisiana had a firearm mortality rate of 29.1 and voted for Trump.
🔵New Mexico had a firearm mortality rate of 27.8 and voted for President Biden.
🔴Alabama had a firearm mortality rate of 26.4 and voted for Trump.
🔴Wyoming had a firearm mortality rate of 26.1 and voted for Trump.
🔴Alaska had a firearm mortality rate of 25.2 and voted for Trump.
🔴Montana had a firearm mortality rate of 25.1 and voted for Trump.
🔴Arkansas had a firearm mortality rate of 23.3 and voted for Trump.
🔴Missouri had a firearm mortality rate of 23.2 and voted for Trump.
🔴Tennessee had a firearm mortality rate of 22.8 and voted for Trump.
🔴South Carolina had a firearm mortality rate of 22.4 and voted for Trump.
🔴Oklahoma had a firearm mortality rate of 21.2 and voted for Trump.
🔵Georgia had a firearm mortality rate of 20.3 and voted for Biden.
🔵Nevada had a firearm mortality rate of 19.8 and voted for Biden.
🔴Indiana had a firearm mortality rate of 18.4 and voted for Trump.

States With The Lowest Gun Death Rates

🔵Massachusetts has a firearm mortality rate of 3.4 and voted for Biden.
🔵Hawaii has a firearm mortality rate of 4.8 and voted for Biden.
🔵New Jersey has a firearm mortality rate of 5.2 and voted for Biden.
🔵New York has a firearm mortality rate of 5.4 and voted for Biden.
🔵Rhode Island has a firearm mortality rate of 5.6 and voted for Biden.
🔵Connecticut has a firearm mortality rate of 6.7 and voted for Biden.
🔵New Hampshire has a firearm mortality rate of 8.3 and voted for Biden.
🔵California has a firearm mortality rate of 9.0 and voted for Biden.
🔵Minnesota has a firearm mortality rate of 10.0 and voted for Biden.
🔴Nebraska has a firearm mortality rate of 10.3 and voted for Trump.
🔴Iowa has a firearm mortality rate of 11.2 and voted for Trump.
🔵Washington has a firearm mortality rate of 11.2 and voted for Biden.
🔵Vermont has a firearm mortality rate of 11.9 and voted for Biden.
🔵Maine has a firearm mortality rate of 12.6 and voted for Biden.
🔵Wisconsin has a firearm mortality rate of 13.5 and voted for Biden...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ariannajohnson/2023/04/28/red-states-have-higher-gu...
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Paul M. Reeping et al. 2023. Firearm Death Rates in Rural vs Urban US Counties. JAMA Surg. 26 April, 2023;158(7):771-772. doi:10.1001/jamasurg.2023.0265 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamasurgery/article-abstract/2804113?widget=per...
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Kaylan_TX @Kaylan_TX | 9:42 PM · Feb 14, 2024:
Former Republican, Business Owner, Bounty Hunter, Licensed TX Bondsman...

Let’s take a closer look…

Cook County (Chicago), Illinois with a rate of 13.7 gun deaths per 100,000 people
https://twitter.com/Kaylan_TX/status/1757958439790088370/photo/1
vs.
Hinds County, Mississippi with a rate of 31.7 gun deaths per 100,000 people
https://twitter.com/Kaylan_TX/status/1757958439790088370/photo/2

Here is an interactive map you can click on to look up where you live and all other counties in the U.S. and view the rate of gun deaths per capita over the last decade. Enjoy👇
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna81462

2margd
Feb 15, 4:43 am

One dead, 22 shot — including 9 children — at Kansas City Chiefs’ Super Bowl parade
Larry Celona, Patrick Reilly and Katherine Donlevy | Feb. 14, 2024
https://nypost.com/2024/02/14/us-news/multiple-people-shot-near-kansas-city-chie...
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House of Rep's moment of silence for victims, hopefully to be followed by action?? This shooting was thought to be just a fight, not a terrorist act?

https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/u-s-house-of-representatives-takes-moment-o...

3margd
Mar 19, 10:43 am

Think I'll watch solar eclipse away from crowd. (There be crazies who might be triggered by prospect of rapture during solar eclipse...)

Y’all, over on Facebook this means the rapture is coming during the eclipse on April 8th.

Images ( https://twitter.com/thetrueshelby/status/1769825165238522250/photo/1 )

- shelby @thetrueshelby | 4:36 PM · Mar 18, 2024

4John5918
Mar 24, 1:13 am

Kamala Harris announces new office to implement ‘red flag’ gun control laws (Guardian)

The White House has announced a new national office to support states implementing “red flag” laws to combat gun violence, an initiative funded by the justice department... The launch of the federal Extreme Risk Protection Order Resource Center (Erpo) follows Joe Biden’s establishment of the White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention in September, which the president tapped Harris to lead... Erpo is designed to help state and local governments, law enforcement, and others – including behavioral health and social service providers – “optimize” the use of red flag laws... which facilitate the temporary removal of firearms from a person a court believes capable of harming themselves or others...

5John5918
Mar 28, 12:22 am

Haiti: US guns pour into Port-au-Prince, fuelling surge in violence (BBC)

Haiti is a state out of action. More than two weeks after the country's prime minister resigned, following a surge of violence in Port-au-Prince, details of a presidential transitional council have still not been revealed. One of the challenges this council will have to face is the illegal trafficking of guns, which has powered the gangs which have taken over... "All the guns here are from the US, everybody knows it. If the US wants to stop this, they could easily do it one month!" He pleads: "We are asking the US to give us a chance to live, just give us a chance"... The UN report said some estimates put it at half a million legal and illegal weapons here as of 2020. It reported that guns and ammunition were being smuggled in from land, air and sea from US states such as Florida, Texas and Georgia... In July 2022, Haitian authorities seized a huge haul of dozens of weapons with 15,000 rounds of ammunition. They were stuffed in a shipment from Florida heading to an Episcopal church in Haiti...

6margd
Apr 12, 1:06 pm

Doug Aoki @Nantanreikan | 9:59 AM · Apr 12, 2024:
Retired academic & current karate instructor; grumpy old hopeful misanthropist battling fascism, racism, misogyny, homophobia.

This doesn't happen in a civilized country.
2:18 ( https://twitter.com/Nantanreikan/status/1778785020515348643 )

7margd
Jun 3, 8:10 am

Most Students Prefer Colleges That Restrict Guns on Campus
Zach Hrynowski | March 14, 2024

81% of current and potential students say gun policies influence enrollment
Most students prefer schools that restrict guns on campus
One in three students worry at least a fair amount about gun violence

...Students prefer more restrictive gun policies by a 5-to-1 margin.

...One in three current in-person students worry about gun violence on campus.

Bottom Line
As gun rights advocates continue to win legal victories regarding firearms and where individuals may carry them, colleges and universities may soon be required to comply with state or federal rulings that update campus gun regulations. In 2023, the Georgia Supreme Court upheld the University of Georgia Board of Regents’ policy to allow guns on campus; one year earlier, the Montana Supreme Court vacated a state law allowing concealed carry on Montana University System campuses. A challenge to the University of Michigan’s campus firearms ban has been appealed to the Michigan Supreme Court.
More than eight in 10 current and prospective students say these policies are at least somewhat important in their enrollment considerations, and a majority of those who factor gun policies into their decisions prefer a campus that restricts firearms. While many public universities are currently subjected to state laws that govern campus gun policies, those that allow firearms on campus may risk losing potential applicants to other universities that better align with students’ gun policy preferences.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/611459/students-prefer-colleges-restrict-guns-campu...

8lriley
Jun 14, 5:41 pm

Supreme Court just struck down laws banning gun bump stocks. If someone out there is dreaming of becoming the next Las Vegas shooter (and there's always a few) and go out in a blaze of glory it's open season again basically.

9John5918
Jun 15, 12:11 am

Just for the sake of completeness, it's worth remembering that mass shootings of civilians are taking place on a daily basis in Sudan, Ukraine, Gaza and elsewhere. Some of the shooters are even being given medals for their crimes.

10lriley
Edited: Jun 15, 7:19 am

>9 John5918: Since you took it further I'll take it a bit further. Just because a country declares war against another country and even when politicians and religious leaders absolve soldiers before and after going into battle of killing 'enemy' combatants (or civilians) they are still murdering others and the fact that a very large % of them will come back very conflicted about what they've themselves have taken a part in and that so many of them will deal with PTSD issues for the rest of their lives kind of speaks to that. I asked a VA psychologist that and he basically told me that you fight in a war and you're going to have issues later on. He wasn't talking about most....he was talking about everyone. To be clear I was asking him about a book by another psychologist David Shay who wrote about combat trauma in his book titled Achilles in Vietnam.

A medal is not worth all of that. Neither is a flag.

11John5918
Jun 15, 8:06 am

>10 lriley: Well said!

12margd
Edited: Jun 15, 9:22 am

>10 lriley: "A medal is not worth all of that. Neither is a flag."

I can't ask him now, but I think my dad always thought his service in WW2 Europe was worthwhile, though personally costly in terms of PTSD. Civilians might have been unintentionally harmed, but my impression was that Allied soldiers were always welcomed. Even German civilians were happier to see Allied soldiers than Russians?

13John5918
Edited: Jun 15, 9:40 am

>12 margd: Civilians might have been unintentionally harmed

I don't think the civilians killed and maimed by US and British carpet-bombing of German cities, nor those killed by German bombing of British cities, not those killed by the US atomic bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima, were "unintentionally harmed". It was deliberate.

14margd
Edited: Jun 15, 12:49 pm

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15lriley
Edited: Jun 16, 1:30 am

>12 margd: My dad was USMC and fought the Japanese. He was in several battles.....the most significant historical one was Okinawa. To some degree he was proud of what he did though there were regrets that for most of his life he kept to himself. They started leaking out towards the end of his life.

16John5918
Jun 22, 12:27 am

No guns for domestic abuse suspects, top US court rules (BBC)

People placed under restraining orders for suspected domestic violence do not have a right to own guns, the Supreme Court has ruled. The 8-1 decision upholds a 30-year-old law that bars those with restraining orders for domestic abuse from owning firearms... Friday's ruling marks a rare victory for firearms restrictions in the top court... Chief Justice John Roberts delivered the majority opinion, with all but one of his colleagues in agreement. The policy of disarming alleged domestic abusers is in line with "what common sense suggests", he wrote. "When an individual poses a clear threat of physical violence to another, the threatening individual may be disarmed," he said...

17John5918
Jun 26, 2:03 am

Tackling US gun violence as a public health crisis. Will it help? (BBC)

US Surgeon General Vivek Murthy has declared gun violence a public health crisis, a move aimed at curbing the US' role in leading the world in shooting deaths. In a first-of-its-kind report urging action, the country's top doctor noted that a majority of Americans or their family members have experienced gun violence. A public health approach could help, Dr Murthy argues, as it did with changes to seatbelt safety in vehicles and warnings about health impacts of smoking cigarettes. He hopes to remove politics from an issue that has bitterly divided lawmakers and instead have Americans look at the impacts and the data. "I want people to understand the full impact gun violence is having on the United States," Dr Murthy told the BBC in an interview on Tuesday. "For every one life lost, there are two people who are shot and injured and are experiencing mental and physical health consequences, family members who grieve the loss of a loved one, witnesses to these incidents, and millions who read about and hear about gun violence every day in the papers." Gun safety advocates are cautiously optimistic about Tuesday's advisory and see it as a step toward changing how the public view the issue. "This is not a political issue," Dr Chethan Sathya, director of Northwell Health's Center for Gun Violence Prevention, told the BBC...

18margd
Aug 11, 9:54 am

Harris and Walz Announced Assault Weapons Ban, Not Gun Ban, During Rally
Taija PerryCook | Aug. 9, 2024

Throughout her career, Kamala Harris has supported the reinstatement of the 1994 assault weapons ban.

...In a rally speech on Aug. 6, 2024, Harris said she and Walz will pass universal background checks, red flag laws and an assault weapons ban if she wins the presidential election in November. The pair did not announce a general "gun ban."...

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kamala-harris-walz-gun-ban/

19margd
Aug 19, 4:19 am

Michigan Police: Violence leaves clues. Stop a plot. Speak up.

Mass Attacks are Preventable.
53 percent of mass attacks leave a trail of clues leading up to them. 76 percent of attackers had concerning communications or elicited concern from others. For 59 percent of attackers, the first of these behaviors started over a year before the attack. Learn how to recognize the warning signs. And if you see something of concern, speak up. It’s confidential and safe...

The Pathway to Violence.
1. Grievance: An individual may feel wronged due to a real or perceived experience. This feeling may stem from a sense of injustice, victimization, or embarrassment in a relationship, the workplace or life.
2. Violent Ideation: The decision to use violence as the answer. While many people have thoughts of violence at times, most will not move toward the pathway to violence.
3. Research and Planning the Attack: During this step, an individual may begin thinking about how they would carry out the violence they believe will solve their grievance. They may begin doing research on past attacks, weapons, potential targets, or locations for an attack.
4. Pre-Attack Preparation: In this phase, the individual is psychologically ready to attack. They may begin preparations, such as collecting weapons, building explosives, target practicing, or purchasing special clothing or equipment.
5. Probing and Breaches: This step is not always included in the pathway, but it is common to do a “dry run” of an attack. The individual may visit the intended target, look for security cameras, assess police presence, or call in a fake bomb threat or shooting. They may change their plans based on what they learn.
6. Attack: The final step on the pathway is carrying out the act of violence.

Note: A person can move up and down this pathway, and there are opportunities at any point to speak up and intercept them before an attack or loss of life.

https://www.michigan.gov/msp/divisions/intel-ops/mioc/stop-a-plot

20margd
Aug 23, 12:09 pm

Behind a paywall:

At least 89% of mass shootings were perpetrated by men
Since 2006, 589 people have committed mass killings with guns
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/mass-shootings/shooters/

21lriley
Edited: Aug 23, 12:44 pm

>19 margd: A couple things--police officers on the whole tend to be notoriously conservative and frequently right wing which speaks to other issues such as the ready availability for almost anyone who wants of assault weapons and high velocity handguns. They themselves sport such things in their everyday lives and quite often get away with legalized murders. But those on the right are also the most vociferous about 'gun rights' and that doesn't seem to be part of what they're saying here but IMO a ban of assault weapons as well as stricter gun control would go a very long way towards attenuating the problem.

Also no mention of bullied young people in schools. A lot of our school shootings have their start right there. A lot of people don't really want to have serious conversations about that either. The availability of assault weapons and high velocity handguns for young children, teenagers might be addressed here as well.

22John5918
Sep 4, 12:58 am

Man charged after four shot dead on Chicago train (BBC)

A 30-year-old man from Chicago has been charged with murder after four people were fatally shot on a train, authorities said. The suspect, identified by Forest Park Police as Rhanni Davis, is accused of four counts of first-degree murder. The victims all appeared to be asleep on a Blue Line train in the Chicago suburb of Forest Park when they were shot just before 05:30 local time (10:30 GMT) on Monday, police said... Deputy Chief for the Forest Park Police Department Christopher Chin said the shooting appeared to be a "random act of violence", saying the gunman "shot and killed four victims when literally they were sleeping on the train"... Police said surveillance footage showed the attacker walking through the train, and shooting four passengers who appeared to be asleep in two different carriages. The four victims were not sitting together... Gun violence is common in the United States, where there are more firearms than people...

232wonderY
Edited: Sep 4, 12:44 pm

Another school shooting in a Georgia high school.
One of the commentators was talking about a way to teach young children how to act in a way that doesn’t terrify them. He mentioned a game pretending a tiger is loose in the school, making it a fun experience.
That’s disgusting to me. I googled looking for that exercise.

Haven’t found it, but this
ETA
No. I’m not posting the picture. Sorry
from this story:
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Fake Blood and Blanks: Schools Stage Active Shooter Drills

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fake-blood-blanks-schools-stage-active-shoo...

24margd
Sep 5, 12:24 pm

Ron Filipkowski @RonFilipkowski | 12:11 PM · Sep 5, 2024 {X}:
Editor-in Chief http://MeidasTouch.com, Co-host Uncovered, Attorney, Marine, Former Federal and State Prosecutor, Republican Party Insane Asylum Escapee

Mike Collins, who represents the district where the school shooting happened yesterday, says “it’s not the right time to talk about” gun control, and that the solution is: “We’ve got to get back to God in this country.” Story.

https://meidasnews.com/news/rep-collins-its-not-the-time-to-talk-about-gun-contr...

252wonderY
Sep 5, 12:26 pm

>24 margd: I will take note of that congressional race come November. Is two months long enough for voters to forget?

27lriley
Edited: Sep 8, 10:32 am

Trying this 14 year old kid as an adult is not a good idea. No doubt he has issues--a broken home, always on the move from one place to another and bullied at school for an extended period of time. Georgia trying him as an adult glosses over its own failures and the nation's failures to come to a real grip with its gun control problem. In this event just the availability of an assault weapon to an already traumatized young teenager. This scenario has played out over again and again the past two/three decades. These guns shouldn't be available even to most adults and even most police and young teenagers should not be housed in adult prisons.

Apparently when they interviewed this kid as a 13 year old his father told the FBI that he was being harassed by other kids on a daily basis at school and that he was worried about him. His father then giving him this gun as a Christmas present is a WTF. That said his school should have been made aware that this was an issue after the FBI interview and kept a closer eye on what was going on with him.

282wonderY
Sep 8, 10:49 am

>27 lriley: So much agree with you.

There was a shooter in my general area last evening. He shot up vehicles going both north and south on I-75. Five people with gunshot wounds, two others injured from car crashes. They think they know who did it, but he’s still at large.

https://apnews.com/article/kentucky-shooting-interstate-75-freeway-08391eb00af98...

29lriley
Sep 8, 3:37 pm

>28 2wonderY: They've made it into a freedumb issue. And as much as one side of the political side is much worse than the other there still isn't enough from the better side of it.

Schools too should look to find kids whose peers are giving them a hard time. It seems there are more and more intersections of factors coming to these kinds of climaxes and afterwards it's the handwringing and prayers that don't do a damn thing. As it is though are society is inundated with these kinds of weapons and with it all kinds of people with all kinds of issues have opportunity to use them.

302wonderY
Edited: Sep 9, 9:48 am

>28 2wonderY: Huh. The KY shooting suspect - “He is not a felon and has a relatively clean record that includes the March dismissal of a charge of making a terrorist threat”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/arrest-warrant-charges-fugitive-suspect-ope...

He bought the AR-15 and 1000 rounds of ammunition on Saturday morning.

According to Kentucky state court records, Couch was charged in February with misdemeanor “terroristic threatening.” However, the charge was dismissed when a victim failed to appear in court. In 2015, Couch was sentenced to six months in jail after being convicted of criminal mischief and unlawful transactions with a minor. Couch also has had a handful of traffic violations and a public intoxication conviction in 2020.

31margd
Sep 9, 10:13 am

>30 2wonderY: Hope they capture him soon -- and that the copycats aren't paying attention... Most of all, hope our leaders do something about this sea of guns designed for human-hunting!

32margd
Sep 16, 8:01 am

Not a mass shooting, but how did wouldbe Trump-assassin get hold of an AK-47-style rifle??

Suspected Trump Gunman Was Once Charged With Possession of a Weapon of Mass Destruction
Leah Feiger & Tim Marchman | Sep 15, 2024

Ryan Wesley Routh, the suspected gunman involved in an apparent assassination attempt on former president Donald Trump at the Trump International Golf Club in Florida on Sunday, was charged with possession of a weapon of mass destruction over 20 years ago.

...According to court records from the Guilford District Court in North Carolina obtained by WIRED, Routh was arrested by the Greensboro Police Department on December 16, 2002.

...Routh was pulled over by police during a traffic stop. Routh then drove to the business United Roofing, where he proceeded to barricade himself for three hours...

...(Charging officer Tracy) Fulk says he was well known in the area, and that police would get alerts about him allegedly related to, as she remembers, weapons and explosives.

...Routh was charged with possession of a fully automatic machine gun, referred to in court filings as a weapon of mass destruction. He was also charged with carrying a concealed weapon, as well as driving without a valid license and resisting, delaying, and obstructing law enforcement ... plead guilty to carrying a concealed gun...

https://www.wired.com/story/ryan-routh-donald-trump-gunman-weapon-of-mass-destru...

332wonderY
Sep 25, 11:35 am

Alex Jones’ Infowars to Be Auctioned Off to Help Pay $1.5 Billion He Owes Sandy Hook Families

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/alex-jones-infowars-auctione...

According to Bloomberg Law, a bankruptcy court converted Jones’ personal Chapter 11 into a Chapter 7 in June. A judge tossed out his Free Speech Systems’ separate bankruptcy proceeding, allowing the families to pursue judgments against Jones’ media company in state courts.

34margd
Sep 30, 10:39 am

Bans on High-Capacity Magazines Tied to 91% Drop in Child Deaths in Mass Shootings
— Other gun-restriction laws seemed less effective, researchers say
Jennifer Henderson | September 28, 2024

...Among 178 pediatric mass shootings in the U.S. identified from 2009 to 2020, laws banning the sale of large-capacity magazines were significantly linked with a reduction in child deaths (OR 0.09 ... ), reported Pamela Emengo, MD, of Stanford University in California, and colleagues... at the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) annual meeting...

..."we found that large-capacity magazine bans were effective in preventing...deaths {by} mass shootings involving our age group, and this reduction in deaths was about 91%... And we found that that was pretty significant... when we looked to see whether these large-capacity magazine bans were implemented in the United States," they were "really not". ... At the time of the study, only eight states had adopted large-capacity, or high-capacity, magazine bans. As of 2024, that number increased, but to just 14.

... Among other gun laws the researchers examined, those involving restriction of firearms around kids were the most common, Emengo and colleagues found. However, these laws failed to show significance in preventing mass shootings or child deaths, as did the next most common ones, extreme risk protection laws and universal background checks.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/meetingcoverage/aap/112174

35John5918
Oct 4, 3:18 am

Geneva Peace Week 2024: What is the Future for Small Arms Control?

As part of Geneva Peace Week 2024, on 17 October the Small Arms Survey will host a hybrid event. ‘What is the Future for Small Arms Control?’ will examine what ‘peace’ means in terms of small arms control in the past, present, and future.

The event will be held between 11:00 and 12:30 CET at the Maison de la Paix Conference Center in Geneva, and participants will also be able to attend the meeting online. Interpretation will be provided in 30 languages through the AI-powered platform Wordly via Zoom. Register for either option here: https://www.genevapeaceweek.ch/en/register

https://www.genevapeaceweek.ch/en/programme/schedule/what-future-for-small-arms-...