2024 Presidential Election ~ 7
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1margd
Trump says it’s “very dangerous” for Kamala Harris voters to identify themselves because they’ll “get hurt”
0:20 (https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1843020699092295724)
- Kamala HQ @KamalaHQ | 4:09 PM · Oct 6, 2024 {X}
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‘You Just Saw it!’ Stephanopoulos THROWS DOWN With Speaker Johnson Over Clip of Eric Trump Saying Dems Are Behind Assassination Attempts
Joe DePaoloOct 6th, 2024
https://www.mediaite.com/news/you-just-saw-it-stephanopoulos-throws-down-with-sp...
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Karen Piper @PiperK | 12:31 AM · Oct 6, 2024 {X}:
In response to this one post, which is a lie, an endless number of people on Twitter are threatening to kill FEMA workers. 1/
Post, Elon Musk (https://x.com/PiperK/status/1842784658775245189)
If just one person pops off and shoots a National Guard member, it will be on Elon Musk. 2/
Tweets (https://x.com/PiperK/status/1842784661103132856/photo/1)
Laura Loomer is also promoting militias. These conspiracy theories are so dangerous. 3/
Posts, Loomer (https://x.com/PiperK/status/1842784663544185242/photo/1)
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Roger ZenAF @RogerZenAF | 12:04 AM · Oct 5, 2024 {X}:
This is the type of shit that gets people killed.
Literally.
Laura loomer: don't comply with FEMA (https://x.com/RogerZenAF/status/1842415586300575853/photo/1)
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Sickening Report Reveals How Trump Played Politics With Disaster Aid
Hafiz Rashid | October 3, 2024
Donald Trump has been accusing Democrats of not wanting to help Republican victims of Hurricane Helene. But a new report exposes his craven hypocrisy.
...Since Hurricane Helene hit the American Southeast, Trump has pushed conspiracy theories that Democrats are neglecting Republican areas hit hard by the storm, doubling down after being called out. Even Republican politicians, like Georgia Governor Brian Kemp, are pushing back against him. But as is often the case with Trump, every accusation is just a confession.
https://newrepublic.com/post/186755/report-trump-politics-voters-disaster-relief
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ETA
A Whopping 175 House Republicans Voted Against FEMA Funding in 2021
114 are them up for re-election right now and have Democratic challengers. We've got the full list.
MeidasTouch Network | Oct 04, 2024
https://www.meidasplus.com/p/a-whopping-175-house-republicans
0:20 (https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1843020699092295724)
- Kamala HQ @KamalaHQ | 4:09 PM · Oct 6, 2024 {X}
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‘You Just Saw it!’ Stephanopoulos THROWS DOWN With Speaker Johnson Over Clip of Eric Trump Saying Dems Are Behind Assassination Attempts
Joe DePaoloOct 6th, 2024
https://www.mediaite.com/news/you-just-saw-it-stephanopoulos-throws-down-with-sp...
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Karen Piper @PiperK | 12:31 AM · Oct 6, 2024 {X}:
In response to this one post, which is a lie, an endless number of people on Twitter are threatening to kill FEMA workers. 1/
Post, Elon Musk (https://x.com/PiperK/status/1842784658775245189)
If just one person pops off and shoots a National Guard member, it will be on Elon Musk. 2/
Tweets (https://x.com/PiperK/status/1842784661103132856/photo/1)
Laura Loomer is also promoting militias. These conspiracy theories are so dangerous. 3/
Posts, Loomer (https://x.com/PiperK/status/1842784663544185242/photo/1)
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Roger ZenAF @RogerZenAF | 12:04 AM · Oct 5, 2024 {X}:
This is the type of shit that gets people killed.
Literally.
Laura loomer: don't comply with FEMA (https://x.com/RogerZenAF/status/1842415586300575853/photo/1)
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Sickening Report Reveals How Trump Played Politics With Disaster Aid
Hafiz Rashid | October 3, 2024
Donald Trump has been accusing Democrats of not wanting to help Republican victims of Hurricane Helene. But a new report exposes his craven hypocrisy.
...Since Hurricane Helene hit the American Southeast, Trump has pushed conspiracy theories that Democrats are neglecting Republican areas hit hard by the storm, doubling down after being called out. Even Republican politicians, like Georgia Governor Brian Kemp, are pushing back against him. But as is often the case with Trump, every accusation is just a confession.
https://newrepublic.com/post/186755/report-trump-politics-voters-disaster-relief
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ETA
A Whopping 175 House Republicans Voted Against FEMA Funding in 2021
114 are them up for re-election right now and have Democratic challengers. We've got the full list.
MeidasTouch Network | Oct 04, 2024
https://www.meidasplus.com/p/a-whopping-175-house-republicans
2Molly3028
ONE MONTH TO GO
Trump with the help of Musk (a billionaire with his X platform) and Murdoch (a billionaire with his FOX News network) could easily become president again because, unfortunately, 2020's Americans are a very gullible lot.
Trump with the help of Musk (a billionaire with his X platform) and Murdoch (a billionaire with his FOX News network) could easily become president again because, unfortunately, 2020's Americans are a very gullible lot.
32wonderY
Former Florida GOP Chair Backs Kamala Harris: 'Preserve Our Republic'
https://www.newsweek.com/former-florida-gop-chair-al-cardenas-backs-kamala-harri...
Trump is favored in Florida, where he is officially a resident, having won the state in the past two elections, 2016 and 2020. However, the state previously went blue, voting for former President Barack Obama twice.
Here he is on Morning Joe:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DA1XM4HS8j2/?igsh=dHZuc3JjMjNwOTcw
https://www.newsweek.com/former-florida-gop-chair-al-cardenas-backs-kamala-harri...
Trump is favored in Florida, where he is officially a resident, having won the state in the past two elections, 2016 and 2020. However, the state previously went blue, voting for former President Barack Obama twice.
Here he is on Morning Joe:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DA1XM4HS8j2/?igsh=dHZuc3JjMjNwOTcw
5margd
>4 MDGentleReader: Encouragement for Republican to assassinate Trump and Vance?
Win: rid of shameful candidates?
Win: Rs win the presidency?
Win: demonize the Dems?
Win: rid of shameful candidates?
Win: Rs win the presidency?
Win: demonize the Dems?
6Molly3028
Despite the 19th and 20th century mindsets of the MAGA crowd, the globe entered the AI era this year. The Mag 7 entities are all in. We will not be returning to the "good old" 1850's or 1950's ever again.
92wonderY
Trump’s top general calls ex-president ‘fascist to the core’ and ‘most dangerous person to this country,’ new book says
Retired General Mark Milley to Bob Woodward
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-fascist-gene...
Retired General Mark Milley to Bob Woodward
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-fascist-gene...
11margd
Harris campaign ad pushes back on Trump insult to Motor City.
So glad to see this!
1:00 (https://x.com/TrumpsTaxes/status/1844807705355268349)
So glad to see this!
1:00 (https://x.com/TrumpsTaxes/status/1844807705355268349)
122wonderY
Scranton firefighters were not holding pro-Trump signs at rally
https://www.thetimes-tribune.com/news/scranton-firefighters-were-not-holding-pro...
In a phone interview Thursday, Local 60 President Allen Lucas said he had no idea where the signs came from, and none of the people holding the signs in photos that he saw were Scranton firefighters, active or retired.
https://www.thetimes-tribune.com/news/scranton-firefighters-were-not-holding-pro...
In a phone interview Thursday, Local 60 President Allen Lucas said he had no idea where the signs came from, and none of the people holding the signs in photos that he saw were Scranton firefighters, active or retired.
14margd
Kamala Harris's medical report (2p):
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/VP-Harris-Health-Summary.p...
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/VP-Harris-Health-Summary.p...
15margd
>14 margd:
Trump campaign statement on President Trump's medical records
https://x.com/TaylorPopielarz/status/1845136908730474526/photo/1
Update on the health of President Trump
Ronny Jackson, former physician to the president | 26 July 2024
https://x.com/TaylorPopielarz/status/1845136908730474526/photo/2
Trump campaign statement on President Trump's medical records
https://x.com/TaylorPopielarz/status/1845136908730474526/photo/1
Update on the health of President Trump
Ronny Jackson, former physician to the president | 26 July 2024
https://x.com/TaylorPopielarz/status/1845136908730474526/photo/2
162wonderY
The immigrants that are endangering our American way of life:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBEEQd_NL9Q/?igsh=NXQ3c3pyMmM3YXc5
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBEEQd_NL9Q/?igsh=NXQ3c3pyMmM3YXc5
17Molly3028
IT’s A TIE
It appears that Trump and his infamous mentor Roy Cohn may have the last laugh this election year.
It appears that Trump and his infamous mentor Roy Cohn may have the last laugh this election year.
18margd
Republicans’ Closing Message: We Lie to You
Fear wasn’t enough, so they are campaigning on falsehoods.
A.B. Stoddard | Oct 09, 2024
... Prepare yourself for this ugly reality: Every Republican in elected office will be expected to go out and lie again if Trump loses on November 5. And they will do it, even if it causes violence. We know that because they are lying now ...
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/republican-closing-message-2024-we-lie-to-you
Fear wasn’t enough, so they are campaigning on falsehoods.
A.B. Stoddard | Oct 09, 2024
... Prepare yourself for this ugly reality: Every Republican in elected office will be expected to go out and lie again if Trump loses on November 5. And they will do it, even if it causes violence. We know that because they are lying now ...
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/republican-closing-message-2024-we-lie-to-you
19margd
Trump’s protests aside, his agenda has plenty of overlap with Project 2025
BILL BARROW | October 14, 2024
Here’s a look at how Trump’s 2024 campaign and Project 2025 align and deviate:
Key tax proposals could benefit the wealthy
Both want to reimpose Trump-era immigration limits
Both would ramp up executive power and the authority to fire federal employees
Both would roll back DEI and LGBTQ programs
Both would abolish the Department of Education
Both blast climate policy
Project 2025 backs Ukraine’s defense, while Trump has questioned US support
https://apnews.com/article/trump-project-2025-heritage-foundation-e2b1be71422f4a...
BILL BARROW | October 14, 2024
Here’s a look at how Trump’s 2024 campaign and Project 2025 align and deviate:
Key tax proposals could benefit the wealthy
Both want to reimpose Trump-era immigration limits
Both would ramp up executive power and the authority to fire federal employees
Both would roll back DEI and LGBTQ programs
Both would abolish the Department of Education
Both blast climate policy
Project 2025 backs Ukraine’s defense, while Trump has questioned US support
https://apnews.com/article/trump-project-2025-heritage-foundation-e2b1be71422f4a...
20John5918
Trump sparks outrage after calling for army to handle enemies on election day (Guardian)
Donald Trump has provoked an angry backlash from Democrats after calling for the US armed forces to be turned against his political adversaries when voters go to the polls at next month’s presidential election. In comments that added further fuel to fears of an authoritarian crackdown if he recaptures the White House, the Republican nominee said the military or national guard should be deployed against opponents that he called “the enemy within” when the election takes place on 5 November...
21margd
FEMA workers change some hurricane-recovery efforts in North Carolina after receiving threats
GARY D. ROBERTSON and SARAH BRUMFIELD | October 14, 2024
... abandoning door-to-door visits ...
...The Rutherford County Sheriff’s Office ... received a call Saturday about a man with an assault rifle who made a comment “about possibly harming” employees of the Federal Emergency Management Agency working in the hard-hit areas of Lake Lure and Chimney Rock, in the North Carolina mountains.
... identified him as William Jacob Parsons, 44, of Bostic, a small community about 60 miles west of Charlotte. Sheriff’s officials said in a statement that Parsons — who was armed with a handgun and a rifle — was charged with “going armed to the terror of the public,” a misdemeanor. He was released after posting bond...
https://apnews.com/article/fema-threats-disaster-workers-rutherford-county-armed...
GARY D. ROBERTSON and SARAH BRUMFIELD | October 14, 2024
... abandoning door-to-door visits ...
...The Rutherford County Sheriff’s Office ... received a call Saturday about a man with an assault rifle who made a comment “about possibly harming” employees of the Federal Emergency Management Agency working in the hard-hit areas of Lake Lure and Chimney Rock, in the North Carolina mountains.
... identified him as William Jacob Parsons, 44, of Bostic, a small community about 60 miles west of Charlotte. Sheriff’s officials said in a statement that Parsons — who was armed with a handgun and a rifle — was charged with “going armed to the terror of the public,” a misdemeanor. He was released after posting bond...
https://apnews.com/article/fema-threats-disaster-workers-rutherford-county-armed...
22John5918
>21 margd:
It says something about the USA that "going armed to the terror of the public” is only a misdemeanour.
It says something about the USA that "going armed to the terror of the public” is only a misdemeanour.
232wonderY
The Hometown Holler asks a rhetorical question
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBJDnM2vsCP/?igsh=MWlkcjNibDVheTQ5Nw==
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBJDnM2vsCP/?igsh=MWlkcjNibDVheTQ5Nw==
24margd
>22 John5918: Amazing, eh? Sounds like it's up to the feds to make a more serious charge. Parsons says he meant no harm ... MAGA crazies probably believe okay to go armed to political rally, Capitol, etc.
252wonderY
Mark Jacob, past editor at the Chicago Tribune, breaks for Kamala
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBJy6k6x80-/?igsh=N3QzeWNwMTJkc2Zr
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBJy6k6x80-/?igsh=N3QzeWNwMTJkc2Zr
28Molly3028
https://www.wsj.com/finance/betting-election-pro-trump-ad74aa71
A Mystery $30 Million Wave of Pro-Trump Bets Has Moved a Popular Prediction Market
Four Polymarket accounts have systematically placed frequent wagers on a Trump election victory
Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump are neck and neck in the polls. But in one popular betting market, the odds have skewed heavily in Trump’s favor, raising questions about a recent flurry of wagers and who is behind them.
HOWEVER
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-presidential-candidate-is-still-the-stock...
WALL STREET: 72% CHANCE SHE WINS
A Mystery $30 Million Wave of Pro-Trump Bets Has Moved a Popular Prediction Market
Four Polymarket accounts have systematically placed frequent wagers on a Trump election victory
Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump are neck and neck in the polls. But in one popular betting market, the odds have skewed heavily in Trump’s favor, raising questions about a recent flurry of wagers and who is behind them.
HOWEVER
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-presidential-candidate-is-still-the-stock...
WALL STREET: 72% CHANCE SHE WINS
292wonderY
Bob and Kristina Lange, Republican farmers who starred in a Kamala Harris campaign ad, say their Republican friends ‘are thanking us for what we’re doing’
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6363558985112
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6363558985112
31margd
5 Nov 2024 is US election day. Wonder what, if anything will change in Gaza and Lebanon in the period between election (5 Nov) and inauguration (20 Jan)?
The die will be cast -- Harris or Trump.
The next elections are two and four years away.
Biden will be lame duck, but one with immunity for official acts.
Netanyahu has ~two weeks ... he can do a lot more damage before then?
The die will be cast -- Harris or Trump.
The next elections are two and four years away.
Biden will be lame duck, but one with immunity for official acts.
Netanyahu has ~two weeks ... he can do a lot more damage before then?
32jjwilson61
I understand the anger of some voters for Biden and by extension Harris, but I wish they would consider that by allowing that to affect their vote they are effectively letting netenyahu decide who wins the US election
33margd
Glenn Kirschner @glennkirschner2 | 1:45 PM · Oct 24, 2024 {X}:
@NBCNews @MSNBC Legal Analyst; Fmr 30-yr fed prosecutor.
Let's pull two news stories together:
1. Trump says if elected he'll fire Jack Smith "in two seconds."
2. Trump is considering appointing Judge Aileen Cannon as Attorney General.
Given that only the AG can fire a special counsel, and given that Cannon is the ONLY JUDGE IN THE COUNTRY who has ruled that a special counsel is unlawful & unconstitutional, it's easy to see why Trump would pick an unqualified hack like Cannon as AG.
@NBCNews @MSNBC Legal Analyst; Fmr 30-yr fed prosecutor.
Let's pull two news stories together:
1. Trump says if elected he'll fire Jack Smith "in two seconds."
2. Trump is considering appointing Judge Aileen Cannon as Attorney General.
Given that only the AG can fire a special counsel, and given that Cannon is the ONLY JUDGE IN THE COUNTRY who has ruled that a special counsel is unlawful & unconstitutional, it's easy to see why Trump would pick an unqualified hack like Cannon as AG.
34kiparsky
>32 jjwilson61: s/netenyahu/putin/
Let's be honest here, does anyone really think Netanyahu is clever enough to convince the weak-minded progressives of America to vote for Trump? I don't. But Putin, yeah, I could buy that.
(and let's not spend any time blithering about how they came up with this nonsense on their own - nobody stupid enough to believe the bafflegab these people are spouting could have managed to convince anyone else of it)
Let's be honest here, does anyone really think Netanyahu is clever enough to convince the weak-minded progressives of America to vote for Trump? I don't. But Putin, yeah, I could buy that.
(and let's not spend any time blithering about how they came up with this nonsense on their own - nobody stupid enough to believe the bafflegab these people are spouting could have managed to convince anyone else of it)
35jjwilson61
All N has to do is kill more Palestinians or start a hot war with Iran and he puts Biden into the position of losing Arab Americans or losing many American Jews. He loses either way and he doesn't have to do anything particularly clever
36jjwilson61
I don't care about the legal technicalities, Harris should be highlighting that Musk is buying votes and why that is so wrong
37Molly3028
If a majority of American voters prefer to have a modern-day Nazi in the White House, there is nothing on earth Kamala or the Dems can do to save our democracy. This election is a pre-250th birthday test of our citizens' resolve.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC1MNGFHR58
A Night at the Garden | An American Nazi Rally in 1939 | POV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC1MNGFHR58
A Night at the Garden | An American Nazi Rally in 1939 | POV
39margd
>38 davidgn: Hope your vote is in the mail! And that you're enjoying lovely spring weather!
40kiparsky
>35 jjwilson61: All I can say is, the damage on that front has been done, and it was not done by Netanyahu. (Although he did serve as a willing tool in the process)
At this point, as far as I can tell the election going to come down to women. If enough women care about not being slaves of the state, America wins. If not, we're in the shit. I know lots of people are going to try to turn this into somehow blaming women, which is weird, but no, if you want to blame someone, you can start with the imbeciles who spent the last year working for Trump because they thought, despite any evidence, logic, or common sense, that this would somehow help the Palestinians. Fuck the bunch of them, forever, amen. Doubly so if they succeed in handing Michigan to the needledick fascist ratfucker and his demented orange boss.
At this point, as far as I can tell the election going to come down to women. If enough women care about not being slaves of the state, America wins. If not, we're in the shit. I know lots of people are going to try to turn this into somehow blaming women, which is weird, but no, if you want to blame someone, you can start with the imbeciles who spent the last year working for Trump because they thought, despite any evidence, logic, or common sense, that this would somehow help the Palestinians. Fuck the bunch of them, forever, amen. Doubly so if they succeed in handing Michigan to the needledick fascist ratfucker and his demented orange boss.
41margd
Jason Leopold JasonLeopold | 7:52 PM · Oct 25, 2024
Investigative Reporter business . 'FOIA terrorist.'... {Bloomberg?}
NEW: Joint statement from ODNI, CISA, FBI
"The IC assesses that Russian actors manufactured and amplified a recent video that falsely depicted an individual ripping up ballots in Pennsylvania..."
Text (https://www.odni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/press-releases-2024/4011-odni-pr-24-24)
https://www.odni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/
Investigative Reporter business . 'FOIA terrorist.'... {Bloomberg?}
NEW: Joint statement from ODNI, CISA, FBI
"The IC assesses that Russian actors manufactured and amplified a recent video that falsely depicted an individual ripping up ballots in Pennsylvania..."
Text (https://www.odni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/press-releases-2024/4011-odni-pr-24-24)
https://www.odni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/
42margd
JD Vance, Elon Musk, RFK Jr in a Trump administration. What could go wrong?
Exhibit A, RFK Jr tweet (https://x.com/CaulfieldTim/status/1850196922688209290/photo/1)
Exhibit A, RFK Jr tweet (https://x.com/CaulfieldTim/status/1850196922688209290/photo/1)
43margd
Hend Amry @LibyaLiberty | 12:50 AM · Oct 26, 2024 {X}:
Anyone who says Harris would be better for Palestinians should be asked if they asked Palestinians for their opinion on the issue.
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Monica Marks @MonicaLMarks | 1:43 AM · Oct 26, 2024
Prof of Middle East Politics @NYUAbuDhabi. Tunisia, Turkey, Gulf. PhD @StAntsCollege Oxford. Fulbright, Rhodes, @HarvardWCFIA. 13 yrs writing on Tunisia.
We don’t have polling on this, tmk, but these are the only pieces I’ve read that interviewed Palestinians in Gaza & the West Bank on the question.
Their material realities are the ones most at stake, and most said they preferred anyone to Trump.
https://al-monitor.com/originals/2024/07/palestinians-gaza-warm-kamala-harris-pr...
Text, Al Monitor (https://x.com/MonicaLMarks/status/1850072449091596577/photo/1)
Text, Al Jazeera (https://x.com/MonicaLMarks/status/1850072449091596577/photo/2)
Anyone who says Harris would be better for Palestinians should be asked if they asked Palestinians for their opinion on the issue.
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Monica Marks @MonicaLMarks | 1:43 AM · Oct 26, 2024
Prof of Middle East Politics @NYUAbuDhabi. Tunisia, Turkey, Gulf. PhD @StAntsCollege Oxford. Fulbright, Rhodes, @HarvardWCFIA. 13 yrs writing on Tunisia.
We don’t have polling on this, tmk, but these are the only pieces I’ve read that interviewed Palestinians in Gaza & the West Bank on the question.
Their material realities are the ones most at stake, and most said they preferred anyone to Trump.
https://al-monitor.com/originals/2024/07/palestinians-gaza-warm-kamala-harris-pr...
Text, Al Monitor (https://x.com/MonicaLMarks/status/1850072449091596577/photo/1)
Text, Al Jazeera (https://x.com/MonicaLMarks/status/1850072449091596577/photo/2)
44davidgn
>39 margd: Thanks. Yes, vote is on the way. Probably will be late for arrival on the day, but the postmark will be in plenty of time. Late returns.
A good time to be here in Santiago, and it's more comfortable and stable here than other places I've travelled--though Bogotá has its charms as well. Quito and I didn't get along well. Continuing to take notes.
I'll be back in the States for Christmas, then plan to resume my slow-boat tour of this continent. I might be down here a while...
A good time to be here in Santiago, and it's more comfortable and stable here than other places I've travelled--though Bogotá has its charms as well. Quito and I didn't get along well. Continuing to take notes.
I'll be back in the States for Christmas, then plan to resume my slow-boat tour of this continent. I might be down here a while...
452wonderY
A cheerful look at Kamala’s rally yesterday
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBu7ebOOEil/?igsh=d2R2a25oeWQya3k0
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBu7ebOOEil/?igsh=d2R2a25oeWQya3k0
46Molly3028
DRUDGE ~ main headline today
TRUMP: AMERICA IS GARBAGE CAN
BIDEN: MAGA IS GARBAGE
HARRIS TAKING OUT TRASH?
TRUMP: AMERICA IS GARBAGE CAN
BIDEN: MAGA IS GARBAGE
HARRIS TAKING OUT TRASH?
47Molly3028
https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/kamala-harris-goes-sister-souljah-on-bidens-gar...
Kamala Harris Goes Sister Souljah on Biden’s Garbage Comment.
It May Save Her Campaign.
Kamala Harris Goes Sister Souljah on Biden’s Garbage Comment.
It May Save Her Campaign.
48Molly3028
https://www.mediaite.com/politics/speaker-johnson-raises-eyebrows-with-no-obamac...
Speaker Johnson Raises Eyebrows With ‘No Obamacare’ Promise If Trump Reelected
House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) raised eyebrows on Tuesday by saying he would join with Donald Trump to “take a blowtorch to the regulatory state” – including Obamacare.
Speaker Johnson Raises Eyebrows With ‘No Obamacare’ Promise If Trump Reelected
House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) raised eyebrows on Tuesday by saying he would join with Donald Trump to “take a blowtorch to the regulatory state” – including Obamacare.
492wonderY
Workers Say They Were Tricked and Threatened as Part of Elon Musk’s Get-Out-the-Vote Effort
https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-america-pac-blitz-canvassing-michigan-uhau...
“I was in shock and disbelief,” says a paid door knocker flown to Michigan to help turn out the vote for former president Donald Trump on behalf of Elon Musk’s America PAC.
In Michigan, canvassers and paid door knockers for the former president, contracted by a firm associated with America PAC, have been subjected to poor working conditions: A number of them have been driven around in the back of a seatless U-Haul van, according to video obtained by WIRED, and threatened that their lodging at a local motel wouldn’t be paid for if they didn’t meet canvassing quotas. One door knocker alleges that they didn’t even know they were signing up for anything having to do with Musk or Trump.
https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-america-pac-blitz-canvassing-michigan-uhau...
“I was in shock and disbelief,” says a paid door knocker flown to Michigan to help turn out the vote for former president Donald Trump on behalf of Elon Musk’s America PAC.
In Michigan, canvassers and paid door knockers for the former president, contracted by a firm associated with America PAC, have been subjected to poor working conditions: A number of them have been driven around in the back of a seatless U-Haul van, according to video obtained by WIRED, and threatened that their lodging at a local motel wouldn’t be paid for if they didn’t meet canvassing quotas. One door knocker alleges that they didn’t even know they were signing up for anything having to do with Musk or Trump.
50John5918
How can I vote for Kamala Harris if she supports Israel’s war? Here is my answer by Bernie Sanders (Guardian)
I understand that there are millions of Americans who disagree with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris on the terrible war in Gaza. I am one of them... And some of you are saying, “How can I vote for Kamala Harris if she is supporting this terrible war?” And that is a very fair question. And let me give you my best answer. And that is that even on this issue, Donald Trump and his rightwing friends are worse. In the Senate and in Congress Republicans have worked overtime to block humanitarian aid to the starving children in Gaza. The president and vice-president both support getting as much humanitarian aid into Gaza as soon as possible. Trump has said that Netanyahu is doing a good job and that Biden is holding him back. He has suggested that the Gaza Strip would make excellent beachfront property for development. It is no wonder Netanyahu prefers to have Donald Trump in office... And let me be clear. We will have, in my view, a much better chance of changing US policy with Harris than with Trump, who is extremely close to Netanyahu and sees him as a like-minded, rightwing extremist ally.
But let me also say this, and I deal with this every single day as a US senator. As important as Gaza is, and as strongly as many of us feel about this issue, it is not the only issue at stake in this election. If Trump wins, women in this country will suffer an enormous setback and lose the ability to control their own bodies. That is not acceptable. If Trump wins, to be honest with you, the struggle against the climate crisis is over... If Trump wins, at a time of enormous income and wealth inequality, he will demand even more tax breaks for the very richest people in our country, while cutting back on programs that working families desperately need...
512wonderY
Trump says he would 'protect' women, 'whether the women like it or not'
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-protect-women-like-it-or-no...
A social media response:
“Grab him by the vote.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-protect-women-like-it-or-no...
A social media response:
“Grab him by the vote.”
52Molly3028
DRUDGE REPORT ~ Friday Nov 1
TRUMP CALLS FOR CHENEY'S EXECUTION
WORLD IN SHOCK...
EX-PRESIDENT INCREASES VIOLENT THREATS AGAINST OPPONENTS...
LIZ CHENEY: THIS IS HOW DICTATORS DESTROY FREE NATIONS...
TRUMP CALLS FOR CHENEY'S EXECUTION
WORLD IN SHOCK...
EX-PRESIDENT INCREASES VIOLENT THREATS AGAINST OPPONENTS...
LIZ CHENEY: THIS IS HOW DICTATORS DESTROY FREE NATIONS...
53John5918
>52 Molly3028:
Trump suggests Liz Cheney should face firing squad for her foreign policy stance (Reuters)
Trump suggests Liz Cheney should face firing squad for her foreign policy stance (Reuters)
Former U.S. lawmaker Liz Cheney said on Friday Republican U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump's violent comment suggesting she should face a firing squad for her foreign policy stance showed he could not be entrusted with the White House and would target his enemies in office... "This is how dictators destroy free nations. They threaten those who speak against them with death. We cannot entrust our country and our freedom to a petty, vindictive, cruel, unstable man who wants to be a tyrant," Cheney responded...
552wonderY
Europe’s Greens ask Jill Stein to pull out of US election to prevent Trump victory
https://www.politico.eu/article/europes-greens-tell-jill-stein-to-pull-out-of-us...
Also, author of Gasland calls her out for her investments and inaction:
I’m an Environmentalist. That’s Why I Can’t Vote Green.
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/jill-stein-green-party-hypocrite/
https://www.politico.eu/article/europes-greens-tell-jill-stein-to-pull-out-of-us...
Also, author of Gasland calls her out for her investments and inaction:
I’m an Environmentalist. That’s Why I Can’t Vote Green.
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/jill-stein-green-party-hypocrite/
562wonderY
MAGA Men Are Freaking Out Over Their Wives Secretly Voting for Harris
https://newrepublic.com/post/187767/maga-men-jesse-waters-meltdown-wives-secretl...
Conservative content creator Mike Cernovich struck a similar chord. “Unless this changes, Kamala Harris takes PA and it’s over.”
Charlie Kirk on X:
I voted today. It was 75% men voting.
Polling place was a pick up truck parking lot.
Men are rising.
It’s happening.
Let’s go.
https://newrepublic.com/post/187767/maga-men-jesse-waters-meltdown-wives-secretl...
Conservative content creator Mike Cernovich struck a similar chord. “Unless this changes, Kamala Harris takes PA and it’s over.”
Charlie Kirk on X:
I voted today. It was 75% men voting.
Polling place was a pick up truck parking lot.
Men are rising.
It’s happening.
Let’s go.
57Molly3028
drudgereport.com
BLOWING IT: TRUMP SIMULATES ORAL SEX ON STAGE!
Vid post on Musk’s X platform
BLOWING IT: TRUMP SIMULATES ORAL SEX ON STAGE!
Vid post on Musk’s X platform
59kiparsky
>57 Molly3028: Is this surprising? I mean, his signature move is miming the starring role in a gangbang. Have people just now noticed?
602wonderY
How to Deprogram the Cult of Donald Trump | Opinion
Opinion by Wendy Jacobson
https://www.newsweek.com/how-deprogram-cult-donald-trump-opinion-1978684
Here's a sampling of concrete steps:
Speak to the underlying rage. Acknowledge that changes in society have torpedoed livelihoods and left too many struggling while others thrive, with threats abounding that could make it worse. Acknowledge this: "Of course you're angry. You feel like you're being trampled by forces beyond your control."
Recognize a yearning for protection. Trump is the recently Tucker-Carlson-dubbed-Daddy who will spank those who are bad while protecting those who offer adulation. Attunement to the longing for an all-knowing strongman who ensures safety helps sharpen the warnings about his abuses and violations. Wait until you pay the price for your "protector" and go to jail for Jan. 6, or have your social safety net threatened, or face consequences of Project 2025, or die unnecessarily from the pandemic, or are conned by Trump University, or have your abortion rights taken away, to name but a few actual or potential consequences of his sloppy, reckless, and dangerous ways.
Emphasize enlightened self-interest. While the psychological approaches above provide temporary relief and short-term pleasure, they are rooted in illusion and won't solve problems. No one can solve hardships with empty promises, and strongman tactics ultimately tear down institutions. It takes hard work, frustration tolerance, and considerable thought to reach solid solutions born of collaboration and compromise.
Opinion by Wendy Jacobson
https://www.newsweek.com/how-deprogram-cult-donald-trump-opinion-1978684
Here's a sampling of concrete steps:
Speak to the underlying rage. Acknowledge that changes in society have torpedoed livelihoods and left too many struggling while others thrive, with threats abounding that could make it worse. Acknowledge this: "Of course you're angry. You feel like you're being trampled by forces beyond your control."
Recognize a yearning for protection. Trump is the recently Tucker-Carlson-dubbed-Daddy who will spank those who are bad while protecting those who offer adulation. Attunement to the longing for an all-knowing strongman who ensures safety helps sharpen the warnings about his abuses and violations. Wait until you pay the price for your "protector" and go to jail for Jan. 6, or have your social safety net threatened, or face consequences of Project 2025, or die unnecessarily from the pandemic, or are conned by Trump University, or have your abortion rights taken away, to name but a few actual or potential consequences of his sloppy, reckless, and dangerous ways.
Emphasize enlightened self-interest. While the psychological approaches above provide temporary relief and short-term pleasure, they are rooted in illusion and won't solve problems. No one can solve hardships with empty promises, and strongman tactics ultimately tear down institutions. It takes hard work, frustration tolerance, and considerable thought to reach solid solutions born of collaboration and compromise.
62Molly3028
A major American political party with cowards like Bush 43 and ex-VP Quayle should never, ever be given a popular vote win again. Spineless, silent cult followers and/or party-before-country members like them are examples of why a majority of 21st century Americans haven't wanted the sh*t the GOP is always trying to sell them.
632wonderY
>57 Molly3028: I heard the microphone has filed sexual assault charges.
64Molly3028
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/bombshell-audio-jeffrey-epstein-talks-about-how-t...
BOMBSHELL AUDIO: Jeffrey Epstein Talks About How Trump Was His ‘Closest Friend for 10 Years’
***
Hopefully, this is the final nail in his political coffin!
BOMBSHELL AUDIO: Jeffrey Epstein Talks About How Trump Was His ‘Closest Friend for 10 Years’
***
Hopefully, this is the final nail in his political coffin!
652wonderY
Trump Says He Wouldn’t Mind Someone Shooting Through ‘Fake News’ At Rally
https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2024/11/03/trump-says-he-wouldnt-mind-some...
Trump also told his supporters at the rally Sunday in Lititz he “shouldn’t have left” the White House after his 2020 loss
https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2024/11/03/trump-says-he-wouldnt-mind-some...
Trump also told his supporters at the rally Sunday in Lititz he “shouldn’t have left” the White House after his 2020 loss
66John5918
Trump says ‘I shouldn’t have left’ White House, despite losing 2020 election (Guardian)
Donald Trump said with two days until the presidential election that he should never have left the White House after his defeat in 2020 and joked darkly he would be fine with reporters getting shot, dredging up grievances that overshadowed his attack lines against Kamala Harris...
67John5918
What if Trump’s campaign is cover for a slow-motion coup? (Guardian)
A much more sinister explanation must be taken seriously. We still assume that we are witnessing two campaigns for the presidency. But what if we are witnessing one campaign and one slow-motion coup, whose organizers need to go through the motion of campaigning for the plan to work?... not about convincing any undecided voter, but motivating committed Trumpists to go along with another coup attempt... Maga members have been primed to resort to violence. Trump and his allies have framed the election as an apocalyptic battle...
682wonderY
Live updates: KY Dems ask for polls to stay open late in Louisville after voting delays
https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/election/article294760319.html
According to the motion, “significant county-wide delays” began almost immediately and the electronic poll books crashed “approximately every 3 minutes for the first three and one half hours of voting.”
An affidavit by the clerk of a polling precinct at Hartstern Elementary said voters waited as long as 2 1/2 hours.
Jefferson County Clerk Bobbie Holsclaw’s office sent an employee to reboot the system around 9:30 a.m., when they were finally able to process voters normally, according to the affidavit.
https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/election/article294760319.html
According to the motion, “significant county-wide delays” began almost immediately and the electronic poll books crashed “approximately every 3 minutes for the first three and one half hours of voting.”
An affidavit by the clerk of a polling precinct at Hartstern Elementary said voters waited as long as 2 1/2 hours.
Jefferson County Clerk Bobbie Holsclaw’s office sent an employee to reboot the system around 9:30 a.m., when they were finally able to process voters normally, according to the affidavit.
69John5918
Left, right, Harris, Trump: all prisoners of political nostalgia in an era few understand (Guardian)
The digital age has turbo-boosted extremism, and analogue democracy is struggling to keep up...
Donald Trump’s record of refusal to concede defeat after the last US election should have disqualified him from running in this one. His criminal indictments should have meant banishment from mainstream politics. His campaign rhetoric – a rambling litany of bigotry and spite – should not have carried beyond the paranoid fringe. But what use are should and shouldn’t against the brute force of can and does? Things that are supposed to be self-evident in a constitutional democracy have ceased to be obvious to millions of Americans. We don’t need to wait for all votes to be counted to wish for a stronger cultural inoculation against tyranny. A healthier body politic would not have been infected by Trump’s candidacy. How did the democratic immune system fail? He is gifted with a malign kind of charisma, but it needed a confluence of economic stagnation, cultural polarisation and technological revolution over many years to achieve maximum contagion...
72John5918
My condolences to the people of the USA... and to the rest of the world which will also have to suffer the consequences.
73Cecrow
But I thought It Can't Happen Here ....
76John5918
>73 Cecrow:
Funnily enough I just bought that book a few weeks ago, and your post has prompted me to begin reading it. Thanks.
Funnily enough I just bought that book a few weeks ago, and your post has prompted me to begin reading it. Thanks.
77Cecrow
>72 John5918:, it's the Ukraine I feel most sorry for. Remember how Syria vanished from western headlines after Trump pulled out?
78Ignatius777
I'm from the UK so obv. don't understand everything going on in your country, but I was taken aback by the size of the win here, and really can't fathom Trump winning the popular vote. Obv the polls saying neck/neck were completely wrong (or biased?) but whilst our bookmakers did have Trump as a winner 1.6 vs 2.6 overall, the popular vote was massive towards KH - 1.3 which is a pretty much guaranteed ... or as much as can be in Politics (or so I thought).
So what happened ? 80m voted for Biden in 2020, yet KH ; 67m so far, even if she gets 70m - where did the other 10million disappear to ? Swing states don't account for the 'missing' voters. I thought KH would appeal to the younger generation so elderly folk no longer voting/no longer here can't be a factor ?
Were they against voting for a woman or a non-white candidate ? Hardly the characteristics of a Democrat voter I would have thought ?
Where did they all go ?
I actually think for Ukraine this is a good thing; had Trump been in charge I suspect there wouldn't have been any invasion in the first place and hopefully the war will end shortly and innocent folk (on both sides) will no longer die.
Also hoping the Middle east situation is rapidly resolved as well - I was disappointed to see Biden not condemning Israel's actions as of late, in fact where was he recently - he seemed to have disappeared from what I can see ?
KH not speaking to her supporters last night - regardless of how things are going, was very poor also I thought. Some comforting words might have helped.
Explanations from your 'side' would be appreciated ! I think there is a lot of stunned folk around the world in general.
So what happened ? 80m voted for Biden in 2020, yet KH ; 67m so far, even if she gets 70m - where did the other 10million disappear to ? Swing states don't account for the 'missing' voters. I thought KH would appeal to the younger generation so elderly folk no longer voting/no longer here can't be a factor ?
Were they against voting for a woman or a non-white candidate ? Hardly the characteristics of a Democrat voter I would have thought ?
Where did they all go ?
I actually think for Ukraine this is a good thing; had Trump been in charge I suspect there wouldn't have been any invasion in the first place and hopefully the war will end shortly and innocent folk (on both sides) will no longer die.
Also hoping the Middle east situation is rapidly resolved as well - I was disappointed to see Biden not condemning Israel's actions as of late, in fact where was he recently - he seemed to have disappeared from what I can see ?
KH not speaking to her supporters last night - regardless of how things are going, was very poor also I thought. Some comforting words might have helped.
Explanations from your 'side' would be appreciated ! I think there is a lot of stunned folk around the world in general.
80Cecrow
>78 Ignatius777:, I'm in Canada so I'm a bit outside it as well. My understanding is that Trump voters trust him to put more money in their pockets and wouldn't listen to any threat-to-democracy messaging.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/06/economy/economy-trump-reelection/index.html
Trump is masterful at seeding doubt in every authority but himself among his following. When he fails to make good on his many impossible promises, they will make his excuses for him.
Zelensky isn't willing to cede an inch of ground to Russia, which is surely what Trump's solution-in-one-day requires. Ukraine will not go down without a fight, but it's difficult to say how prolonged that can be if the United States withdraws its support.
Trump is very pro-Israel. He moved the American embassy to Jerusalem in his first term. I do not expect him to condemn anything they do.
Biden has tried to walk a line between recognizing Israel's right to self-defence and discouraging Israel from the most extreme measures. He tried to maintain a lower profile during the election lead-up to keep the focus on KH.
KH did not want to make a statement until results were more clear. Expect her to concede the race today, after majority in the House is made clear.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/06/economy/economy-trump-reelection/index.html
Trump is masterful at seeding doubt in every authority but himself among his following. When he fails to make good on his many impossible promises, they will make his excuses for him.
Zelensky isn't willing to cede an inch of ground to Russia, which is surely what Trump's solution-in-one-day requires. Ukraine will not go down without a fight, but it's difficult to say how prolonged that can be if the United States withdraws its support.
Trump is very pro-Israel. He moved the American embassy to Jerusalem in his first term. I do not expect him to condemn anything they do.
Biden has tried to walk a line between recognizing Israel's right to self-defence and discouraging Israel from the most extreme measures. He tried to maintain a lower profile during the election lead-up to keep the focus on KH.
KH did not want to make a statement until results were more clear. Expect her to concede the race today, after majority in the House is made clear.
81Ignatius777
>80 Cecrow: That makes sense ... any idea on the 'missing voters' though ? I believe Trump still has less than last time as well yet such a far higher % majority.
I know it depends on voter turn out, but would expect more this time than in the middle of the Covid period. Doesn't make sense from my perspective ?
Also; still really baffled by the pop vote % result. Such high odds on Trump getting that market in comparison.
Then again I remember the British bookmakers/polls on our own Brexit vote. Massive odds on Leave winning (which in hindsight, I should have put a lot of money on as a hedge, as our own economy is in tatters thanks to that) - yet 52/48 'victory ..and I use that word in its loosest possible sense' for Leave.
KH still should have said something last night IMO - think she let a lot of her supporters down quite badly not appearing and you could see that in their demeanour.
A good politician would still be offering words (of some description).
I know it depends on voter turn out, but would expect more this time than in the middle of the Covid period. Doesn't make sense from my perspective ?
Also; still really baffled by the pop vote % result. Such high odds on Trump getting that market in comparison.
Then again I remember the British bookmakers/polls on our own Brexit vote. Massive odds on Leave winning (which in hindsight, I should have put a lot of money on as a hedge, as our own economy is in tatters thanks to that) - yet 52/48 'victory ..and I use that word in its loosest possible sense' for Leave.
KH still should have said something last night IMO - think she let a lot of her supporters down quite badly not appearing and you could see that in their demeanour.
A good politician would still be offering words (of some description).
83davidgn
https://www.democracynow.org/2024/11/6/ralph_nader_on_trumps_win
Doel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXdDK0YdFEg
Pie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0eq7VNCcYY
And they’ve got to stop blasting away at people who want to challenge the Democratic Party. The party says to everybody on their side, “You know how bad the Republicans are? You got nowhere to go.” They spent a lot of money attacking the Green Party, the tiny Green Party, instead of listening to William Barber, Reverend William Barber, who said, “Look, there’s 80 million people who aren’t going to vote. A lot of them are low-wage workers. If you get 15% of low-wage workers who aren’t voting to go to the polls, the Democrats would have won.” They didn’t listen to him. They didn’t listen to all the citizen groups who know how to talk to people, not just liberal patients or liberal workers, but conservative workers, conservative patients. Remember, a vast majority of this country wants to tax the undertaxed wealthy and the corporations. They want to break up the big banks. And above all, in poll after poll, they say that corporations have too much control over their lives. Sherrod Brown pulled in his horns and lost. Bernie Sanders campaigned on corporate power, and he won in a landslide in Vermont. And Harris refused to campaign with Bernie Sanders, but she campaigned in several states with Liz Cheney of the criminal Cheney family and the invasion of Iraq that killed over a million Iraqis.
So the blunders were endless. And it was basically turning her back on the progressive and the genuine populist constituency in this country. And Bernie, of course, supported Harris, but his positions were rejected constantly. He said, “Get the living wage up. Get universal healthcare up. Crack down on corporate crooks. Increase Social Security benefits that have been frozen for over 50 years. And get the taxation on the wealthy.” She ignored all that. Just throwaway lines.
Doel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXdDK0YdFEg
Pie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0eq7VNCcYY
84davidgn
The Watson Institute at Brown is doing a postmortem. Some may be interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQdFMPdDKnE
85prosfilaes
>83 davidgn: And they’ve got to stop blasting away at people who want to challenge the Democratic Party. ... They spent a lot of money attacking the Green Party, the tiny Green Party,
Nothing about that first sentence bothers you, that they have to stop challenging the people that are challenging them?
I'd like to see what counts as "a lot of money", but look at the patterns: in 2016, 1.5 million people voted for Jill Stein. If those people had voted for Clinton, she would have won; it would have shifted Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. In 2020, 400 thousand people voted for Jill Stein. Biden won. Lots of factors, lots of changes, but yes, it seems rational to try and keep those million people voting for you.
Also, Joe Biden by most evidence was about center of the Democratic Party, whereas Clinton was farther to the left. It feels like Nader's telling me the story he wants to hear.
> Look, there’s 80 million people who aren’t going to vote. A lot of them are low-wage workers. If you get 15% of low-wage workers who aren’t voting to go to the polls, the Democrats would have won.
In 2020, 65.9% of the eligible voting population voted. Looking at 1980-2020, that beats the previous high, in 2008, of 61.6% by 4 points. You think you can get another 12 million voters, 5%, on top of that? (Of voting age population, which I have numbers back to 1940, 2020 was 62.8%, that was a low of 49% in 1996 and a tie for 1960 and 2020 for highest turn out.) You're looking at the highest turn-outs in recent history, and trying to tell me that another 5% was possible.
That's also ignores modern voting patterns. In 2020, 61% of people with a college degree voted for Biden, but only 45% of people without one voted for Biden. That's most pronounced among non-Hispanic white populations, but it also shows up in Hispanic populations.
> And it was basically turning her back on the progressive and the genuine populist constituency in this country.
The self-described Conservative/Moderate/Liberal breakdown in this country polls as 36/37/25, or 9/27/37/17/7 if you break out very conservative and very liberal. Everything is complex, but you can't win without moderate support.
To quote Wikipedia, Mudde noted that for populists, "the people" "are neither real nor all-inclusive, but are in fact a mythical and constructed sub-set of the whole population". How about the ideational definition of populism used by Mudde and Rovira Kaltwasser, "A thin-centred ideology that considers society to be ultimately separated into two homogenous and antagonistic camps, "the pure people" versus "the corrupt elite", and which argues that politics should be an expression of the volonté générale (general will) of the people." I'm not a fan, especially as it strikes me as Trump's "Drain the Swamp!" yell, which sounded good but meant nothing.
To pick a couple other lines
> It all started, Amy, when the Democrats abandoned half the country to the red states. That’s devastating. Then they started getting corporate cash in 1979, dialing for the same commercial values. That blurred their difference from the New Deal-type Democrats to the corporate Democrats
I have no idea where this history comes from. In the 1950s, there was a cry for Democrats and Republicans to distinguish themselves in some way. They abandoned half the country to the red states... by enacting the Civil Rights Acts? They lost hard in presidential elections over 1968, 1972, and 1980-1992. His solution was for the Democrats to go left to defeat Reagan? I'm more progressive than Clinton-style Democrats, but read the room; in the 1992 election, going to the left would have only hurt Clinton.
> He called the people coming in rapists, criminals, drug traffickers, etc. Instead of saying, “Well, they’re fleeing oppressive countries that are backed by the U.S., dictators and oligarchs in Central and South America,” they didn’t say that millions of Americans trust immigrants to harvest their food, to care for their children, to care for elderly, to provide critical services that nobody wants to work in in the U.S.
Yeah, that was really going to help. Nader seems to be in quite a bubble. While the US did destabilize former governments in the area, I don't see that we're currently backing any problematic governments. In my experience, saying "oppressive countries that are backed by the U.S." is going to piss off far more voters than will be nodding their head. A lot of Americans are deeply hostile to bad talk about their nation. And while I would have liked the Democrats to say something stronger about how much immigrants do in this country, I don't think it would have affected many voters. Many of those "low-wage voters" have been trained to see the immigrants as their competition, and rational speech has a hard time overcoming emotionally held beliefs.
Nothing about that first sentence bothers you, that they have to stop challenging the people that are challenging them?
I'd like to see what counts as "a lot of money", but look at the patterns: in 2016, 1.5 million people voted for Jill Stein. If those people had voted for Clinton, she would have won; it would have shifted Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. In 2020, 400 thousand people voted for Jill Stein. Biden won. Lots of factors, lots of changes, but yes, it seems rational to try and keep those million people voting for you.
Also, Joe Biden by most evidence was about center of the Democratic Party, whereas Clinton was farther to the left. It feels like Nader's telling me the story he wants to hear.
> Look, there’s 80 million people who aren’t going to vote. A lot of them are low-wage workers. If you get 15% of low-wage workers who aren’t voting to go to the polls, the Democrats would have won.
In 2020, 65.9% of the eligible voting population voted. Looking at 1980-2020, that beats the previous high, in 2008, of 61.6% by 4 points. You think you can get another 12 million voters, 5%, on top of that? (Of voting age population, which I have numbers back to 1940, 2020 was 62.8%, that was a low of 49% in 1996 and a tie for 1960 and 2020 for highest turn out.) You're looking at the highest turn-outs in recent history, and trying to tell me that another 5% was possible.
That's also ignores modern voting patterns. In 2020, 61% of people with a college degree voted for Biden, but only 45% of people without one voted for Biden. That's most pronounced among non-Hispanic white populations, but it also shows up in Hispanic populations.
> And it was basically turning her back on the progressive and the genuine populist constituency in this country.
The self-described Conservative/Moderate/Liberal breakdown in this country polls as 36/37/25, or 9/27/37/17/7 if you break out very conservative and very liberal. Everything is complex, but you can't win without moderate support.
To quote Wikipedia, Mudde noted that for populists, "the people" "are neither real nor all-inclusive, but are in fact a mythical and constructed sub-set of the whole population". How about the ideational definition of populism used by Mudde and Rovira Kaltwasser, "A thin-centred ideology that considers society to be ultimately separated into two homogenous and antagonistic camps, "the pure people" versus "the corrupt elite", and which argues that politics should be an expression of the volonté générale (general will) of the people." I'm not a fan, especially as it strikes me as Trump's "Drain the Swamp!" yell, which sounded good but meant nothing.
To pick a couple other lines
> It all started, Amy, when the Democrats abandoned half the country to the red states. That’s devastating. Then they started getting corporate cash in 1979, dialing for the same commercial values. That blurred their difference from the New Deal-type Democrats to the corporate Democrats
I have no idea where this history comes from. In the 1950s, there was a cry for Democrats and Republicans to distinguish themselves in some way. They abandoned half the country to the red states... by enacting the Civil Rights Acts? They lost hard in presidential elections over 1968, 1972, and 1980-1992. His solution was for the Democrats to go left to defeat Reagan? I'm more progressive than Clinton-style Democrats, but read the room; in the 1992 election, going to the left would have only hurt Clinton.
> He called the people coming in rapists, criminals, drug traffickers, etc. Instead of saying, “Well, they’re fleeing oppressive countries that are backed by the U.S., dictators and oligarchs in Central and South America,” they didn’t say that millions of Americans trust immigrants to harvest their food, to care for their children, to care for elderly, to provide critical services that nobody wants to work in in the U.S.
Yeah, that was really going to help. Nader seems to be in quite a bubble. While the US did destabilize former governments in the area, I don't see that we're currently backing any problematic governments. In my experience, saying "oppressive countries that are backed by the U.S." is going to piss off far more voters than will be nodding their head. A lot of Americans are deeply hostile to bad talk about their nation. And while I would have liked the Democrats to say something stronger about how much immigrants do in this country, I don't think it would have affected many voters. Many of those "low-wage voters" have been trained to see the immigrants as their competition, and rational speech has a hard time overcoming emotionally held beliefs.
86kiparsky
>83 davidgn:. Heh. Not surprising to see Nader still trying to make excuses for the 2000 election, only this time he's doing it by proxy.
Screw Nader. If he had had the balls to admit that his campaign handed Florida to Junior, maybe I'd listen to something he said, but if he won't learn from his mistakes there's nothing at all to learn from him except by example: if you act stupid like Nader, you will bring ugly consequences like Nader, so don't be stupid like Nader.
Screw Nader. If he had had the balls to admit that his campaign handed Florida to Junior, maybe I'd listen to something he said, but if he won't learn from his mistakes there's nothing at all to learn from him except by example: if you act stupid like Nader, you will bring ugly consequences like Nader, so don't be stupid like Nader.
88alco261
>87 margd: Yes, she did. But I would have expected nothing less.
89Jesse_wiedinmyer
Man, that was one hell of a ride.
91margd
With eye on his legacy, and no Democratic president-elect to harm, might lame-duck Biden take some action on Ukraine and Israel? Speed supplies to Ukraine and allow it more freedom to prosecute its defense? Putin won't nuke with Trump soon to take over? ... Eliminate offensive support for Israel, and support UN efforts for Palestinian self-determination?
96davidgn
>84 davidgn: Here's your missing history.
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/how-the-corporations-broke-ralph-nader-and-ame...
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/06/07/the-last-battle-over-big-business
Numbers aren't written in stone. How many people in 2012 identified as MAGA? Trump gave them something (evil) to believe in. Democrats, meanwhile, just look sclerotic.
You don't like Nader. Got it. He's too good for you and too good for this country -- senior moments about the politics of the Americas notwithstanding.
Here's Sanders.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0OzQgqpRGI
Oh, right, you've probably been convinced to hate him too.
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/how-the-corporations-broke-ralph-nader-and-ame...
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/06/07/the-last-battle-over-big-business
Numbers aren't written in stone. How many people in 2012 identified as MAGA? Trump gave them something (evil) to believe in. Democrats, meanwhile, just look sclerotic.
You don't like Nader. Got it. He's too good for you and too good for this country -- senior moments about the politics of the Americas notwithstanding.
Here's Sanders.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0OzQgqpRGI
Oh, right, you've probably been convinced to hate him too.
97kiparsky
>96 davidgn: Ah, yes, the corporate coup enabled in large part by the Bush Jr administration and the Supreme Court led by John Roberts and Samuel Alito? That corporate coup?
Gotcha.
As for liking Ralph Nader, I don't know the man so I can't say whether I'd like him or not, but in terms of his history as an activist he did some good work and then he let his ego lead him to a place where he helped to put America where it is today. The Bush Junior presidency was in most respects a disaster for America - most particularly the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan created a generation of veterans with perfectly understandable grievances, permanently marred America's moral authority in the world, and led to the 2008 recession, but also in the utter failure to make a start on addressing climate change.
As a result of the Bush presidency, we have a nation in despair and at war with itself, and this led us to President Trump. And in the real world, Nader's campaign in 2000 gave us the Bush presidency.
So yeah, Nader might be a great guy with a wonderful sense of humor and pleasing demeanor. He might be a great friend to have or a wonderful guest at a dinner party. I wouldn't know. But in terms of his public life and what he's given to the world, on balance I say to hell with him.
Gotcha.
As for liking Ralph Nader, I don't know the man so I can't say whether I'd like him or not, but in terms of his history as an activist he did some good work and then he let his ego lead him to a place where he helped to put America where it is today. The Bush Junior presidency was in most respects a disaster for America - most particularly the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan created a generation of veterans with perfectly understandable grievances, permanently marred America's moral authority in the world, and led to the 2008 recession, but also in the utter failure to make a start on addressing climate change.
As a result of the Bush presidency, we have a nation in despair and at war with itself, and this led us to President Trump. And in the real world, Nader's campaign in 2000 gave us the Bush presidency.
So yeah, Nader might be a great guy with a wonderful sense of humor and pleasing demeanor. He might be a great friend to have or a wonderful guest at a dinner party. I wouldn't know. But in terms of his public life and what he's given to the world, on balance I say to hell with him.
98prosfilaes
>96 davidgn: Well, there's not much in those articles that seems to be about the Democrats. The business world rallied against Nader, sure.
I guess "The Democrats, fearful of his grass-roots campaign, blamed him for the election of George W. Bush, an absurdity that found fertile ground among those who had abandoned rational inquiry for the thought-terminating clichés of television." counts. Yes, when the vote is that tight, many things can make the difference, and it looks like Nader did in fact make the difference. But using math and logic is apparently the thought-terminating clichés of television.
> The problem is that most liberals are estranged from the working class. They largely have the good jobs. They are not hurting.”
A trend which started happening when Nader was at his height. Coincidence? (Probably.) The left should work on that, but for this campaign, it was a fact. Imagining a mob of progressive working class voters Harris could have whipped up is fantasy.
> Take all the conservatives who work in Wal-Mart: How many would be against a living wage?
I recently worked for Wal-Mart at an entry-level job. It paid $14 an hour. Many people working that type of job believe that if you raised the minimum wage, it would increase the wages of McDonald's workers, and then raise the price of products, but not their wages, meaning they would get effectively paid less. Over the short run, I think they might be right. If the minimum wage was indexed to inflation or at least got regular raises, that would stop being a problem. But Wal-Mart is pretty decent, at least around here, for a job with no real skill/education prerequisites, and jumping up the minimum wage is likely to hurt them in the short run.
> “The real tragedy is that citizens’ movements should not have to rely on the commercial media, and public television and radio are disgraceful — if anything they are worse,” Nader said. “In 30-some years Bill Moyers has had me on twice.
How often Nader appears is the standard for support for progressives, of course. We're in the golden age of communication for citizens' movements. There's groups for every fringe idea on Youtube and Facebook and Discord and everywhere else. If you want to avoid the fairly limited censorship those platforms have, you can set up a Mastodon server or any number of forum software for a minimal cost. This is not the days of the Tsar's Russia, with clandestine pamphleteers trying to hide from censorship.
I guess "The Democrats, fearful of his grass-roots campaign, blamed him for the election of George W. Bush, an absurdity that found fertile ground among those who had abandoned rational inquiry for the thought-terminating clichés of television." counts. Yes, when the vote is that tight, many things can make the difference, and it looks like Nader did in fact make the difference. But using math and logic is apparently the thought-terminating clichés of television.
> The problem is that most liberals are estranged from the working class. They largely have the good jobs. They are not hurting.”
A trend which started happening when Nader was at his height. Coincidence? (Probably.) The left should work on that, but for this campaign, it was a fact. Imagining a mob of progressive working class voters Harris could have whipped up is fantasy.
> Take all the conservatives who work in Wal-Mart: How many would be against a living wage?
I recently worked for Wal-Mart at an entry-level job. It paid $14 an hour. Many people working that type of job believe that if you raised the minimum wage, it would increase the wages of McDonald's workers, and then raise the price of products, but not their wages, meaning they would get effectively paid less. Over the short run, I think they might be right. If the minimum wage was indexed to inflation or at least got regular raises, that would stop being a problem. But Wal-Mart is pretty decent, at least around here, for a job with no real skill/education prerequisites, and jumping up the minimum wage is likely to hurt them in the short run.
> “The real tragedy is that citizens’ movements should not have to rely on the commercial media, and public television and radio are disgraceful — if anything they are worse,” Nader said. “In 30-some years Bill Moyers has had me on twice.
How often Nader appears is the standard for support for progressives, of course. We're in the golden age of communication for citizens' movements. There's groups for every fringe idea on Youtube and Facebook and Discord and everywhere else. If you want to avoid the fairly limited censorship those platforms have, you can set up a Mastodon server or any number of forum software for a minimal cost. This is not the days of the Tsar's Russia, with clandestine pamphleteers trying to hide from censorship.
99Molly3028
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/07/americans-flock-to-expat-websites-after-the-elec...
Americans are flocking to expat websites after the election: ‘They want out, fast’
Tens of thousands of Americans are looking into moving abroad after Donald Trump’s presidential reelection.
In the hours following the presidential race being called for the Republican nominee, nearly 30,000 people and counting visited the website for Expatsi, a travel company that offers scouting trips to help Americans move abroad.
Americans are flocking to expat websites after the election: ‘They want out, fast’
Tens of thousands of Americans are looking into moving abroad after Donald Trump’s presidential reelection.
In the hours following the presidential race being called for the Republican nominee, nearly 30,000 people and counting visited the website for Expatsi, a travel company that offers scouting trips to help Americans move abroad.
100davidgn
>99 Molly3028: Yeah, already make that call more than a year ago. Posted about it, too. I held out a vague hope that Harris could stem the tide, but really, I've already done most of my mourning.
Heading down to Chillán and Concepción in a week or two to check them out. Santiago isn't bad this time of year, but I'm in a place without air conditioning, and it's 5-10 degrees (F) too hot for my taste.
Heading down to Chillán and Concepción in a week or two to check them out. Santiago isn't bad this time of year, but I'm in a place without air conditioning, and it's 5-10 degrees (F) too hot for my taste.
101MDGentleReader
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Women lose again! Your body, OUR CHOICE 😂 that ceiling is made out of BRICK!
This is his reaction to the presidential election results. He was always a misogynist. He is now emboldened.
And high school age girls are hearing "Your body, my choice" from the boys in their schools."
There are multiple men calling for the repeal of the 19th amendment.
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Women lose again! Your body, OUR CHOICE 😂 that ceiling is made out of BRICK!
This is his reaction to the presidential election results. He was always a misogynist. He is now emboldened.
And high school age girls are hearing "Your body, my choice" from the boys in their schools."
There are multiple men calling for the repeal of the 19th amendment.
102prosfilaes
Here's a theory; the Republicans and Trump have sold their stories so well that there was virtually no way that anyone could have beaten Trump. Perhaps a white man could have made it; maybe it was running a woman of color that was the real mistake. Maybe if you could magically rerun the last four years, there would be no way for the Democrats to win in, that inflation would have wrecked their chances in any case.
Maybe it's just been sitting here in Oklahoma, but I don't see a huge ground swell of support for single-payer healthcare from non-voters. I don't see a huge underground sea of progressivism. Berne Sanders was rejected in the primaries in 2016 because he was too liberal for the Democrats. If you've got to get 50%, that's a problem.
Populism sells, but not to college-educated citizens. That may be another strength of the Republican party, that by making their base the uneducated, they don't have to have policies, they can just have slogans, cults of personality.
Maybe it's just been sitting here in Oklahoma, but I don't see a huge ground swell of support for single-payer healthcare from non-voters. I don't see a huge underground sea of progressivism. Berne Sanders was rejected in the primaries in 2016 because he was too liberal for the Democrats. If you've got to get 50%, that's a problem.
Populism sells, but not to college-educated citizens. That may be another strength of the Republican party, that by making their base the uneducated, they don't have to have policies, they can just have slogans, cults of personality.
103Molly3028
Sadly, America is apparently a zone of Marjory-Taylor-Green types. I envy Americans who died before election day. Millions of them had the luxury of believing a majority our citizens would make the sane choice on Nov 5.
105margd
They aren't saying that it would change result, but remember the bomb threats at polling places? A number of counties in various states so targeted are noticing undercounts in mail-in ballots. Dem counties? Swing states? I'll post link when I've worked out my own software issues. :/
114margd
Then there's Homan, the inhuman immigration czar. I told Cdn friends to prepare for deluge of folks fleeing him. (Cdn friends jokingly talking of establishing refuges for appalled Americans... A friend in BC is ready to welcome CA and the NE to Confederation. ;) )
115kiparsky
>106 margd: Pedophiles across the country will sleep easy...
116margd
Will R senators approve all of these clowns, I wonder? Or will Trump make such a mess that voters will exert some control on the midterm elections?
117davidgn
>116 margd: So apparently Gaetz was 2 days out from the potential release of the report of a House Ethics Committee. Except he's now resigned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UJfAdv613E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UJfAdv613E
119margd
Read on Twitter: nominate Marjorie Taylor Greene as Secretary of Education, and Trump will have a full house.
121margd
CNN: Fidelity estimates that Twitter (now X) is worth 80% less than when Elon Musk bought it.
Make America Small Again?
The exodus has picked up since Nov election (most recently to Blue Sky app), expected to peak before Inauguration.
Make America Small Again?
The exodus has picked up since Nov election (most recently to Blue Sky app), expected to peak before Inauguration.
122CuteMomOf12
hey guys i just wanted to say that i voted for mickey mouse this election I thought he was going to win but ig not i am really disappointed in yall
123margd
No, Trump did not name Lauren Boebert education secretary on Nov. 13 | Fact check
BrieAnna J. Frank | 15 Nov 2024
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2024/11/15/trump-hadnt-named-educa...
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... LAUREN BOEBERT wins Colorado's 4th Congressional District ...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/colorado-us-house-district-4-res...
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{Wednesday 13 Nov 2024} Lauren Boebert Told Congress She Is Worried About Space Aliens Operating From Underwater “Bases”
The theater enthusiast also threw in her suspicions about birds, the moon landing, and a secret government project to create “hybrid” humans...
Kase Wickman | November 14, 2024
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/story/rep-lauren-boebert-secret-underwater-alie...
BrieAnna J. Frank | 15 Nov 2024
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2024/11/15/trump-hadnt-named-educa...
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... LAUREN BOEBERT wins Colorado's 4th Congressional District ...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/colorado-us-house-district-4-res...
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{Wednesday 13 Nov 2024} Lauren Boebert Told Congress She Is Worried About Space Aliens Operating From Underwater “Bases”
The theater enthusiast also threw in her suspicions about birds, the moon landing, and a secret government project to create “hybrid” humans...
Kase Wickman | November 14, 2024
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/story/rep-lauren-boebert-secret-underwater-alie...
124John5918
The ‘foolproof’ election forecaster who predicted Trump would lose – what went wrong? (Guardian)
Why did he think Harris would win, and what went wrong? “The keys are premised on the proposition that a rational, pragmatic electorate decides whether the White House party has governed well enough to get another four years,” he explains. “Just as this kind of hate and violence is new, there are precedent-shattering elements now to our political system, most notably disinformation. “There’s always been disinformation but it has exploded to a degree we’ve never seen before. It’s not just Fox News and the rightwing media. It’s also rightwing podcasters and we have a brand new player, the $300bn guy, Elon Musk, whose wealth exceeds that of most countries in the world and has heavily put his thumb on disinformation”... “It’s been reported that the disinformation that he disseminates has been viewed billion of times. The disinformation extends to every aspect of our society and our economy. Many people are living in an alternative universe and that calls into question the fundamental basis of political decision-making in this country.” That includes disinformation about inflation, jobs, employment, the stock market, growth, hurricane aid, the Ukraine war and undocumented immigrants, falsely portrayed as dangerous killers when in fact they commit crimes at far lower rate than native-born Americans. Another problem for Lichtman’s model was a presidential candidate who has constantly torn up the rulebook and defied categorisation. “We’ve seen Trump far more than we’ve ever seen in the history of this country channel the darkest impulses in American life – things that have always been with us but were increased exponentially this time: racism, misogyny, xenophobia, antisemitism. “We’re seeing something new in our politics, which affected the prediction and could affect future predictions but has a much bigger message for the future of our democracy. George Orwell was 40 years too soon. He made it clear that dictatorships don’t just arise from brutality and suppression. They arise from control of information: doublethink. Famine is plenty, war is peace. We’re in the doublethink era and maybe we can get out of it, maybe not”...
125davidgn
"Meet Pete Hegseth, the Man Who Will Lead the Entire US Military — A Man Deemed an ‘Extremist’ by the US Military"
Jeff Sharlet
https://religiondispatches.org/meet-pete-hegseth-the-man-who-will-lead-the-entir...
Interviewed:
https://www.democracynow.org/2024/11/15/jeff_sharlet_pete_hegseth_pentagon_extre...
Jeff Sharlet
https://religiondispatches.org/meet-pete-hegseth-the-man-who-will-lead-the-entir...
Interviewed:
https://www.democracynow.org/2024/11/15/jeff_sharlet_pete_hegseth_pentagon_extre...
126margd
Trump names fossil fuel executive Chris Wright as energy secretary
COLLEEN LONG, MATTHEW DALY and WILL WEISSERT | November 16, 2024
CEO of Denver-based Liberty Energy, Wright is a vocal advocate of oil and gas development, including fracking, a key pillar of Trump’s quest to achieve U.S. “energy dominance” in the global market.
Wright has been one of the industry’s loudest voices against efforts to fight climate change, and could give fossil fuels a boost, including quick action to end a year-long pause on natural gas export approvals by the Biden administration.
Frequently criticizing what he calls a “top-down” approach to climate by liberal and left-wing groups, Wright has argued that the climate movement around the world is “collapsing under its own weight.” He has never served in government, but has written that more fossil fuel production is needed around the globe to lift people out of poverty...
https://apnews.com/article/trump-2024-election-energy-secretary-d546f5f81d7b2347...
COLLEEN LONG, MATTHEW DALY and WILL WEISSERT | November 16, 2024
CEO of Denver-based Liberty Energy, Wright is a vocal advocate of oil and gas development, including fracking, a key pillar of Trump’s quest to achieve U.S. “energy dominance” in the global market.
Wright has been one of the industry’s loudest voices against efforts to fight climate change, and could give fossil fuels a boost, including quick action to end a year-long pause on natural gas export approvals by the Biden administration.
Frequently criticizing what he calls a “top-down” approach to climate by liberal and left-wing groups, Wright has argued that the climate movement around the world is “collapsing under its own weight.” He has never served in government, but has written that more fossil fuel production is needed around the globe to lift people out of poverty...
https://apnews.com/article/trump-2024-election-energy-secretary-d546f5f81d7b2347...
127margd
Pressure is on to get Biden to fulfill a campaign promise before he leaves office
N'dea Yancey-Bragg, USA TODAY | November 19, 2024
... {Death penalty} Opponents like Risher {daughter of Dylann-Roof victim} hope to secure life sentences for {40 federal death row} prisoners ... {Trump} helped expedite 13 executions during the last six months of his first term (the first in 17 years}. No federal executions have happened during Biden's presidency, which ends Jan. 20, 2025.
... On the campaign trail, Trump called for expanded use of the death penalty to punish drug dealers, human traffickers, child rapists and migrants who kill American citizens or law enforcement officers.
... Biden pledged on his campaign website he'd push for legislation to abolish the federal death penalty and would encourage states to do the same. He then became the first president to oppose the death penalty.
But Biden did little to advocate for the bill introduced by Rep. Ayanna Pressley, D-MA, and Sen. Dick Durbin, D-IL, to end the federal death penalty ...
... Attorney General Merrick Garland imposed a moratorium on federal executions in 2021, removing the death penalty from the table in more than two dozen death penalty cases in which the Trump administration had authorized it.
But federal prosecutors have continued to fight the appeals of people on death row and pursue new death sentences in a handful of cases ...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/pressure-biden-fulfill-campaign-promise-100445027.htm...
N'dea Yancey-Bragg, USA TODAY | November 19, 2024
... {Death penalty} Opponents like Risher {daughter of Dylann-Roof victim} hope to secure life sentences for {40 federal death row} prisoners ... {Trump} helped expedite 13 executions during the last six months of his first term (the first in 17 years}. No federal executions have happened during Biden's presidency, which ends Jan. 20, 2025.
... On the campaign trail, Trump called for expanded use of the death penalty to punish drug dealers, human traffickers, child rapists and migrants who kill American citizens or law enforcement officers.
... Biden pledged on his campaign website he'd push for legislation to abolish the federal death penalty and would encourage states to do the same. He then became the first president to oppose the death penalty.
But Biden did little to advocate for the bill introduced by Rep. Ayanna Pressley, D-MA, and Sen. Dick Durbin, D-IL, to end the federal death penalty ...
... Attorney General Merrick Garland imposed a moratorium on federal executions in 2021, removing the death penalty from the table in more than two dozen death penalty cases in which the Trump administration had authorized it.
But federal prosecutors have continued to fight the appeals of people on death row and pursue new death sentences in a handful of cases ...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/pressure-biden-fulfill-campaign-promise-100445027.htm...
128margd
Trump’s Putting Together a Team of Outlaws
Jill Lawrence | Nov 18, 2024
It’s a cabinet in his image: narcissistic, corrupt, and dangerous to America.
,,, Trump isn’t interested in the challenge or reward of Abraham Lincoln’s disputatious team of rivals. He wants a team of outlaws: likeminded pals who ignore laws, boundaries, ethics, norms, civility, respect, and plain manners. People whose unforced missteps, mistakes, and worse are now a badge of honor; a mark of achievement; a prerequisite for the job; and a permission slip to bend 330 million people to their will as part of a Trump administration—or from outside it, as we’re already seeing with co-president and diplomatic kibitzer Elon Musk.
This is, of course, a massive problem for what remains of our pluralistic democracy. But the more critical problem is what happens to real people as Trump and his mini-me battalion attempt to crush women’s rights, wage war on science, endanger our national security, and turn us into a violent, terrifying nation of deporters...
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trump-cabinet-team-of-outlaws-gaetz-hegseth-gabbard...
Jill Lawrence | Nov 18, 2024
It’s a cabinet in his image: narcissistic, corrupt, and dangerous to America.
,,, Trump isn’t interested in the challenge or reward of Abraham Lincoln’s disputatious team of rivals. He wants a team of outlaws: likeminded pals who ignore laws, boundaries, ethics, norms, civility, respect, and plain manners. People whose unforced missteps, mistakes, and worse are now a badge of honor; a mark of achievement; a prerequisite for the job; and a permission slip to bend 330 million people to their will as part of a Trump administration—or from outside it, as we’re already seeing with co-president and diplomatic kibitzer Elon Musk.
This is, of course, a massive problem for what remains of our pluralistic democracy. But the more critical problem is what happens to real people as Trump and his mini-me battalion attempt to crush women’s rights, wage war on science, endanger our national security, and turn us into a violent, terrifying nation of deporters...
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trump-cabinet-team-of-outlaws-gaetz-hegseth-gabbard...
129blueday6
>122 CuteMomOf12: super unfortunate. I wonder what would happen if that actually went through.
130margd
Jake Sherman @JakeSherman | 12:54 PM · Nov 19, 2024:
Trump has nominated DR OZ to be administrator of CMS (Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services).
Text (https://x.com/JakeSherman/status/1858977192694464745)
Trump has nominated DR OZ to be administrator of CMS (Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services).
Text (https://x.com/JakeSherman/status/1858977192694464745)
131margd
Trump set to appoint Project 2025 architect Russ Vought to Office of Management and Budget
John Knefel | Published 11/20/24
Vought is a leading proponent of “Schedule F,” a plan to potentially fire thousands of federal civil servants and replace them with MAGA acolytes...
https://www.mediamatters.org/russ-vought/trump-set-appoint-project-2025-architec...
John Knefel | Published 11/20/24
Vought is a leading proponent of “Schedule F,” a plan to potentially fire thousands of federal civil servants and replace them with MAGA acolytes...
https://www.mediamatters.org/russ-vought/trump-set-appoint-project-2025-architec...
132margd
Karen Friedman Agnifilo @kfa-legal.bsky.social | November 20, 2024 at 6:15 AM
Attorney, Podcaster, CNN Legal Analyst, Former Manhattan DA prosecutor, and advisor to the TV show Law and Order.
So now that Trump’s Manhattan DA case is paused, likely indefinitely, Trump will be the first POTUS who will be inaugurated while out on bail - not money bail - but his bail conditions remain the same…just sayin.
Attorney, Podcaster, CNN Legal Analyst, Former Manhattan DA prosecutor, and advisor to the TV show Law and Order.
So now that Trump’s Manhattan DA case is paused, likely indefinitely, Trump will be the first POTUS who will be inaugurated while out on bail - not money bail - but his bail conditions remain the same…just sayin.
133margd
Trump Has Lost His Popular-Vote Majority
Ed Kilgore | 21 Nov 2024
... by any measure, the claim of an “unprecedented” mandate simply isn’t true ...
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/election-results-show-trump-has-lost-pop...
Ed Kilgore | 21 Nov 2024
... by any measure, the claim of an “unprecedented” mandate simply isn’t true ...
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/election-results-show-trump-has-lost-pop...
134margd
David Philipps @David_Philipps | 11:07 AM · Nov 21, 2024:
New York Times military correspondent. Author of ALPHA, Eddie Gallagher and the War for the Soul of the Navy SEALs.
When Pete Hegseth was an earnest, young Army lieutenant, he was cleareyed that warcrimes were indefensible. By the end of his Army career, he was their leading defender.
The Metamorphosis of Pete Hegseth: From Critic of War Crimes to Defender of the Accused
{Paywall} https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/21/us/politics/pete-hegseth-defense-department.h...
President-elect Donald J. Trump’s pick to lead the Defense Department was described by peers as a skillful soldier who became embittered by military dysfunction ...
New York Times military correspondent. Author of ALPHA, Eddie Gallagher and the War for the Soul of the Navy SEALs.
When Pete Hegseth was an earnest, young Army lieutenant, he was cleareyed that warcrimes were indefensible. By the end of his Army career, he was their leading defender.
The Metamorphosis of Pete Hegseth: From Critic of War Crimes to Defender of the Accused
{Paywall} https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/21/us/politics/pete-hegseth-defense-department.h...
President-elect Donald J. Trump’s pick to lead the Defense Department was described by peers as a skillful soldier who became embittered by military dysfunction ...
135MDGentleReader
Comstock Act, Censorship, you do not own your ebooks, definition of pornography.
https://substack.com/@katharinehill1/note/c-79727591?r=1mbp4l
https://substack.com/@katharinehill1/note/c-79727591?r=1mbp4l
136Molly3028
Women have to accept the fact that women voters were responsible for last month's election outcome. Women are the majority gender and what they do or fail to do during an election cycle determines the eventual outcome. A return to the "good old 1950s" appears to be what a majority of women decided they wanted.
137margd
Such a boor Trump is... Invited to reopening of Notre Dame, he shook President Macron's hand, twisting it up to Trump's chest. Managed to make a lineup of notables look like a receiving line for HIM. Touched Prince of Wales on shoulder and elbow...
1382wonderY
A left over from the election, but a story I missed.
Progress 2028 is not a Democrat funded ad campaign, but funded by MAGA supporters.
They sent out ads misleading the public about the Harris campaign positions.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/10/24/elon-musk-progress-2028-harris/
Progress 2028 is not a Democrat funded ad campaign, but funded by MAGA supporters.
They sent out ads misleading the public about the Harris campaign positions.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/10/24/elon-musk-progress-2028-harris/