Eliot (2018). The Waste Land. Thornwillow Press

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Eliot (2018). The Waste Land. Thornwillow Press

1abysswalker
Edited: Oct 29, 11:16 pm

Prompted by a query in another thread, here are some photos of the Thornwillow edition of The Waste Land. This is one of 100 copies bound in half leather with paste paper over the boards.

It is unillustrated, though as you can see from the photos at least this state includes a tipped in frontispiece depiction of the author.

The paper has a slight blueish tint which may or may not come through in these photos. According to this comment, the paper used is Mohawk milkweed from their Loop collection, though this is not specified in the book itself.

If money were truly no object, I might go for the Officina Bodoni edition, which is almost certainly a finer book in terms of absolute quality, but the Mardersteig design is more Mardersteig than it is Eliot. The Thornwillow edition feels like a more natural expression of the poem, to me.

Click through for larger photos on the image hosting site. I think you can click again there to get even higher resolution.

















































2GardenOfForkingPaths
Edited: Oct 30, 7:34 am

>1 abysswalker: Thanks for posting. The paste paper used for the covers is lovely, and the layout looks good too.

I regret missing this one. I'm in the market for a nice edition of The Waste Land but Thornwillow have raised the price of the paper wrapper edition to $350. It was $85 during the Kickstarter in 2020. I would expect some increase post-campaign and adjusting for inflation, but this seems a bit of a stretch. I'd be interested to hear if any owners think I'm wide of the mark here, though.

3abysswalker
Oct 30, 9:18 am

>2 GardenOfForkingPaths: $350 USD is probably too rich for me, for the paper wrapper edition.

Worth noting that the Thornwillow price increases are more connected to their idiosyncratic patronage model than to inflation per se. They explicitly increase the price as supply dwindles to provide greater benefit to earlier supporters, as far as I understand it.

4NathanOv
Edited: Oct 30, 11:36 am

>3 abysswalker: Little bit of a mix of both, I think. Kickstarter and subscriber prices are always discounted from the website list price, usually by 25-30% but sometimes more, and they do always raise the prices quite a bit on “final” copies of any title.

However, they’ve also added a pretty big markup on all of their stock, regardless of how many copies are available over the past year or two.

That, I’d say, is less general market inflation than being 4-5 new releases behind their pre-pandemic / pre-Ulysses publishing pace.

5AitanaGreen
Edited: Nov 21, 2:28 am

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6CabbageMoth
Nov 13, 9:53 am

The first Greek word is spelled wrong, right? Either whoever set the type can't distinguish nu from upsilon or the Greek typeface is horribly designed. There should be one of each letter in the epigraph, but they look identical to me (and they both look like nu to me).

7jveezer
Nov 13, 11:44 am

That's a beauty! I really like my AP edition but it's big. I can't remember if it's one of those books that Andrew Hoyem made wider to accomodate the intended line width of the poet. When I get a chance I'll compare the AP to the page you showed here...

8lgreen666
Nov 13, 3:59 pm

I'm still awaiting the NoReply edition which sounds stunning and brings academic weight to the aesthetics

9jdanielpowell
Nov 13, 5:13 pm

>6 CabbageMoth: Yes, I agree. Here's a comparison:

Arion Press:


Folio Society limited edition:


And Thornwillow:

10astropi
Nov 13, 7:55 pm

>6 CabbageMoth: >9 jdanielpowell: that's some good eyes you have! I would not have noticed :)

11SebRinelli
Edited: Nov 13, 9:48 pm

>10 astropi: I think it's immediately noticeable if one can read Ancient Greek. It would annoy the hell out of me. 😅

>8 lgreen666: yes, me too! The editions of Prufrock and Preludes (2nd printing) of No Reply are beautiful, particularly the latter. Really looking forward to The Waste Land which is expected to become one of the highlights of the press so far.

12ultrarightist
Nov 13, 10:05 pm

>9 jdanielpowell: So the Folio Society edition got it wrong, too?

13ambyrglow
Nov 13, 10:10 pm

The nu and upsilon look distinct in the Folio edition to me. It's just Thornwillow that's off.

14Glacierman
Nov 13, 11:06 pm

Well, it's all Greek to me.

15CabbageMoth
Nov 14, 9:22 am

>9 jdanielpowell: Seeing the text blown up like this, my conclusion is that not only didn't Thornwillow proofread, but also that the Greek type is indeed ugly. The Arion and Folio choices are very different from each other, but both look much nicer to me. And now I also have a question about what is going on in the Thornwillow with the accent on apothanein, which looks wrong to me and certainly disagrees with the other versions.

16astropi
Edited: Nov 14, 4:14 pm

Well, I'll be honest, as someone that deals with Greek fairly often because it appears all the time in science, it looks like someone at Thornwillow just got their "v" and nu confused - I personally see this too often to be bothered :)

Yeah, you could argue it's sloppy, but I've seen far worse errors from other editions such the Allen Press (and I love the Allen Press)! That said, it does look like they made three errors right there - The v instead of nu, an extra space, and it almost looks like a % sign over the iota.